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[Hermes]

An indictment from Turkey of its self-defeating colonisation of northern Cyprus....

Despite its size and potential, Turkey has to deal with this “minor” issue. The feud of the two parties over the island is now directly influencing Turkey. It experiences problems with the south over EU membership talks, and now over fossil fuels, Israeli involvement adding fuel to the fire.

Problems with Cypriot Turks’ discontent regarding “quasi-colonial” rule are ever mounting. In the past, Turkish Cypriots would hold rallies against the Greeks; now their reaction is directed against Turkey.

Bluffs suggesting that the north could be annexed or that the navy could be sent to the Mediterranean are not taken seriously. On the other hand, irresolution of the conflict means the continuation of military control of the island, thus a huge obstacle to the demilitarization process in Turkey.

Along the same lines, Turkey is unable to deal with the Ergenekon mindset which is still active in the north.

The situation in the north is even worse. Even supporters of the government hold that the National Unity Party (UBP) is the weakest and clumsiest party of all when it comes to reunification talks...

The middle class is eroding fast. More closures than openings of new businesses are reported. There is no serious economic activity other than gambling. The economy is fast coming under Turkey’s control, as incentives are provided mostly to entrepreneurs from Turkey. The land is provided free of charge; loans are secured from Turkey; the labor force is imported from Turkey and the building material is not subjected to customs regulations. A perfect “colonial” economy!

http://www.todayszaman.com/columnist-28 ... issue.html?

[GreekIslandGirl]

To this day, most Turks don't even know where Cyprus is!

[MR-from-NG]

An indictment from Turkey of its self-defeating colonisation of northern Cyprus....

Despite its size and potential, Turkey has to deal with this “minor” issue. The feud of the two parties over the island is now directly influencing Turkey. It experiences problems with the south over EU membership talks, and now over fossil fuels, Israeli involvement adding fuel to the fire.

Problems with Cypriot Turks’ discontent regarding “quasi-colonial” rule are ever mounting. In the past, Turkish Cypriots would hold rallies against the Greeks; now their reaction is directed against Turkey.

Bluffs suggesting that the north could be annexed or that the navy could be sent to the Mediterranean are not taken seriously. On the other hand, irresolution of the conflict means the continuation of military control of the island, thus a huge obstacle to the demilitarization process in Turkey.

Along the same lines, Turkey is unable to deal with the Ergenekon mindset which is still active in the north.

The situation in the north is even worse. Even supporters of the government hold that the National Unity Party (UBP) is the weakest and clumsiest party of all when it comes to reunification talks...

The middle class is eroding fast. More closures than openings of new businesses are reported. There is no serious economic activity other than gambling. The economy is fast coming under Turkey’s control, as incentives are provided mostly to entrepreneurs from Turkey. The land is provided free of charge; loans are secured from Turkey; the labor force is imported from Turkey and the building material is not subjected to customs regulations. A perfect “colonial” economy!

http://www.todayszaman.com/columnist-28 ... issue.html?

I often wonder if the talks and all these meetings are just for show. The rate at which roads, hotels and casinos are built I get the feeling these undesirables have no intention of ever leaving. They are pouring in millions and millions of dollars. So, thanks to you GC's we are stuck with them You and your stupid desire for ENOSIS has ruined a beautiful island

[Hermes]

I should add that while the occupation is certainly damaging to Turkish credibility and interests in the region this journalist makes no mention of the thousands of Cypriots deprived of their homes and lands by the occupation. Nor of the desecration of the island's cultural heritage by the Turkish military presence in the north.

Not that surprising all told. But appealing to Turkish national interest is a better bet than appealing to Turkish sense of shame. It's clear they don't have any.

[Hermes]

I often wonder if the talks and all these meetings are just for show. The rate at which roads, hotels and casinos are built I get the feeling these undesirables have no intention of ever leaving. They are pouring in millions and millions of dollars. So, thanks to you GC's we are stuck with them You and your stupid desire for ENOSIS has ruined a beautiful island

Oh dear. Not that old excuse again! I think you'll find that trying to blame the GCs for the occupation is exactly like blaming a rape victim for provoking the rapist. Immoral, sick and downright offensive.

[MR-from-NG]

I often wonder if the talks and all these meetings are just for show. The rate at which roads, hotels and casinos are built I get the feeling these undesirables have no intention of ever leaving. They are pouring in millions and millions of dollars. So, thanks to you GC's we are stuck with them You and your stupid desire for ENOSIS has ruined a beautiful island

Oh dear. Not that old excuse again! I think you'll find that trying to blame the GCs for the occupation is exactly like blaming a rape victim for provoking the rapist. Immoral, sick and downright offensive.

Its not an excuse. It is fact. The island is in the state its in as a result of your desire to gift the island to Greece. My comments are fact and not at all offensive. Your analogy of the rape victim is a joke. You got to this shit because you behaved like a whore and asked for it. If you behaved like a lady you would have had love and respect.

[GreekIslandGirl]

The reality is that TCs were always after more rights than anybody else.

So, they were happy to be offered land and property by Turkey regardless of which innocent people (GCs) lost out. They believed, and still do, that they deserve more. After all, they tell themselves, GCs behaved as if they were the democratic majority.

- Now the TCs want the Turks to leave so that they can fully enjoy the free gifts without being reminded of the guilt behind their ill-gotten goods.

[humanist]

The TC's are holding themselves back and the rest of Cyprus in reaching it's potential.

[MR-from-NG]

The reality is that TCs were always after more rights than anybody else.

So, they were happy to be offered land and property by Turkey regardless of which innocent people (GCs) lost out. They believed, and still do, that they deserve more. After all, they tell themselves, GCs behaved as if they were the democratic majority.

- Now the TCs want the Turks to leave so that they can fully enjoy the free gifts without being reminded of the guilt behind their ill-gotten goods.

Not one single word of truth or fact. The TC's are just as victims as you are. lets not forget, it is you that behaved like a whore and got us all in this mess, we got screwed because of your stupidity. The property issue is of course going to be complex and difficult to resolve but with common sense and a bit of compromise from you and a bit from us will resolve it. TC's are very much aware that they are o occupying property that does not legally belong to them and are prepared to negotiate. You know nothing about TC's, and nothing about Turks, all you know is how to hate them with a passion.

[Viewpoint]

enosis ruined everything.