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Re: Turkish atrocities in Cyprus

Postby Hermes » Sun Jun 24, 2012 4:58 pm

Viewpoint wrote:This would only be possible if your returned 30% of government jobs, 15 seats in parliament, vice presidency and our veto rights, this you GCs would never do as it has always been your aim to erase our partnership rights and reduce us to minority status.


If what the TC leadership wants is a return to the 1960 Constitution then why don't they propose to the GCs and the UN to alter the solution framework and begin negotiations on the basis of a unitary state and on the basis of the 1960 ROC constitution?
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Re: Turkish atrocities in Cyprus

Postby Viewpoint » Mon Jun 25, 2012 5:08 pm

Hermes wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:This would only be possible if your returned 30% of government jobs, 15 seats in parliament, vice presidency and our veto rights, this you GCs would never do as it has always been your aim to erase our partnership rights and reduce us to minority status.


If what the TC leadership wants is a return to the 1960 Constitution then why don't they propose to the GCs and the UN to alter the solution framework and begin negotiations on the basis of a unitary state and on the basis of the 1960 ROC constitution?


Have you suddenly changed your minds it was you people that didnt want the 1960 agreements putting forward 13 points that would have taken away our rights and handed Cyprus to you on plate so theat you can "democratically" do as you wish eg give it to Greece. The day we made such a move would be the day you ask for those 13 points or more to force us from partnership status to minority status...we would be back to square one. Whats wrong with sharing the island equally side by side as 2 states joined together as one nation just as the UN proposes it? what have you got against us administering our own part of the island and you your own where people can travel and settle as they wish? Another matter I have difficulty grasping is that you Gcs hate us so much why the hell would you want a unitary state and live mixed with us? it brings to mind that you have ulterior motives and thats why you are not trusted.
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Re: Turkish atrocities in Cyprus

Postby Maximus » Mon Jun 25, 2012 8:55 pm

VP5000, the TC 'community' have a false right and claim to the island. I cant give it to you any simpler than that but the majority of Cypriots will not settle for an apartheid with an ethnic minority. It does not matter which constituent state you end up living in but a partnership, on a 50:50 basis between minority(15%) and majority(85%) does not work. It has been proven already that it will not work, remember :!:

Sooner or later, everyone will respect Cyprus's sovereign integrity, the EU aquis will be implemented across the whole island and she will be a democratic republic. I don't know where you will fit in to all this exactly, VP5000, but the TC's better hurry up and make up their minds because Talat says they are being eliminated.
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Re: Turkish atrocities in Cyprus

Postby Kikapu » Mon Jun 25, 2012 9:39 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
Hermes wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:This would only be possible if your returned 30% of government jobs, 15 seats in parliament, vice presidency and our veto rights, this you GCs would never do as it has always been your aim to erase our partnership rights and reduce us to minority status.


If what the TC leadership wants is a return to the 1960 Constitution then why don't they propose to the GCs and the UN to alter the solution framework and begin negotiations on the basis of a unitary state and on the basis of the 1960 ROC constitution?


Have you suddenly changed your minds it was you people that didnt want the 1960 agreements putting forward 13 points that would have taken away our rights and handed Cyprus to you on plate so theat you can "democratically" do as you wish eg give it to Greece. The day we made such a move would be the day you ask for those 13 points or more to force us from partnership status to minority status...we would be back to square one. Whats wrong with sharing the island equally side by side as 2 states joined together as one nation just as the UN proposes it? what have you got against us administering our own part of the island and you your own where people can travel and settle as they wish? Another matter I have difficulty grasping is that you Gcs hate us so much why the hell would you want a unitary state and live mixed with us? it brings to mind that you have ulterior motives and thats why you are not trusted.


our own part of the island and you your own
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There's no such thing as the statement you have made above. There is no separate ownership of any part of Cyprus by any community. When you make such statements, it is no wonder no one trusts you, because should that be accepted, the first chance you get, you will say, "oh, this part belongs to the TCs/Turks and we are now going to declare independence and kick out all the foreigners (GCs) who are not TCs/Turks". Who would trust such ill intend Racist Fascists such as yourself and the likes of you such as present and past leadership in the north.
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Re: Turkish atrocities in Cyprus

Postby Viewpoint » Mon Jun 25, 2012 11:11 pm

Maximus wrote:VP5000, the TC 'community' have a false right and claim to the island. I cant give it to you any simpler than that but the majority of Cypriots will not settle for an apartheid with an ethnic minority. It does not matter which constituent state you end up living in but a partnership, on a 50:50 basis between minority(15%) and majority(85%) does not work. It has been proven already that it will not work, remember :!:

Sooner or later, everyone will respect Cyprus's sovereign integrity, the EU aquis will be implemented across the whole island and she will be a democratic republic. I don't know where you will fit in to all this exactly, VP5000, but the TC's better hurry up and make up their minds because Talat says they are being eliminated.


Wont this development be worse for you or do naively think that you can kick all the 2nd 3rd 4th generation new TCs out? do you really believe that the TRNC will just evaporate and the whole island will be yours? if you do you are down right stupid once youve been weened off what you are taking and come back down to earth you need to get a grip with facts facts that say TCs are your partner and you cannot erase this without their say so....youd better work real hard to try and win TCs over all I read and see is a constant barrage of actions which only alienate the TCs and prove the biggest belief that you cannot trust GCs.
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Re: Turkish atrocities in Cyprus

Postby Kikapu » Mon Jun 25, 2012 11:27 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
Maximus wrote:VP5000, the TC 'community' have a false right and claim to the island. I cant give it to you any simpler than that but the majority of Cypriots will not settle for an apartheid with an ethnic minority. It does not matter which constituent state you end up living in but a partnership, on a 50:50 basis between minority(15%) and majority(85%) does not work. It has been proven already that it will not work, remember :!:

Sooner or later, everyone will respect Cyprus's sovereign integrity, the EU aquis will be implemented across the whole island and she will be a democratic republic. I don't know where you will fit in to all this exactly, VP5000, but the TC's better hurry up and make up their minds because Talat says they are being eliminated.


Wont this development be worse for you or do naively think that you can kick all the 2nd 3rd 4th generation new TCs out? do you really believe that the TRNC will just evaporate and the whole island will be yours? if you do you are down right stupid once youve been weened off what you are taking and come back down to earth you need to get a grip with facts facts that say TCs are your partner and you cannot erase this without their say so....youd better work real hard to try and win TCs over all I read and see is a constant barrage of actions which only alienate the TCs and prove the biggest belief that you cannot trust GCs.


Most of these 2nd, 3rd 4th generation and so on Illegal Aliens are sitting on stolen GC properties, and once it is taken away from them, they will voluntarily head back to their motherland, if not outright kicked out. Why do you think the EU wants Turkey to sign (which Turkey doesn't want to sign) the repatriation clause for those entering the EU illegally in order for Turkey to have a visa free access to the EU for the Turks. Sounds to me like, the Illegal Aliens in Cyprus will be the first to be repatriated back to Turkey once Turkey signs the visa free accord.

I'm sure you and your family will be very happy to have been repatriated back to your roots.......in Turkey! :lol:
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Re: Turkish atrocities in Cyprus

Postby Maximus » Mon Jun 25, 2012 11:39 pm

VP5000, you are blabbering on.

The TC 'community' has been scammed. I have seen this happen many times before, where investors have lost a lot because of an "idea". The 'TRNC' is just your little fantasy and just like all other bubbles have done before, this bubble will eventually burst too.
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Re: Turkish atrocities in Cyprus

Postby Viewpoint » Mon Jun 25, 2012 11:46 pm

Maximus wrote:VP5000, you are blabbering on.

The TC 'community' has been scammed. I have seen this happen many times before, where investors have lost a lot because of an "idea". The 'TRNC' is just your little fantasy and just like all other bubbles have done before, this bubble will eventually burst too.


So you havent got anything to back up your claim just hot air?
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Re: Turkish atrocities in Cyprus

Postby Maximus » Mon Jun 25, 2012 11:50 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
Maximus wrote:VP5000, you are blabbering on.

The TC 'community' has been scammed. I have seen this happen many times before, where investors have lost a lot because of an "idea". The 'TRNC' is just your little fantasy and just like all other bubbles have done before, this bubble will eventually burst too.


So you havent got anything to back up your claim just hot air?


can you disprove it?
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Re: Turkish atrocities in Cyprus

Postby Viewpoint » Mon Jun 25, 2012 11:51 pm

Kikapu wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Maximus wrote:VP5000, the TC 'community' have a false right and claim to the island. I cant give it to you any simpler than that but the majority of Cypriots will not settle for an apartheid with an ethnic minority. It does not matter which constituent state you end up living in but a partnership, on a 50:50 basis between minority(15%) and majority(85%) does not work. It has been proven already that it will not work, remember :!:

Sooner or later, everyone will respect Cyprus's sovereign integrity, the EU aquis will be implemented across the whole island and she will be a democratic republic. I don't know where you will fit in to all this exactly, VP5000, but the TC's better hurry up and make up their minds because Talat says they are being eliminated.


Wont this development be worse for you or do naively think that you can kick all the 2nd 3rd 4th generation new TCs out? do you really believe that the TRNC will just evaporate and the whole island will be yours? if you do you are down right stupid once youve been weened off what you are taking and come back down to earth you need to get a grip with facts facts that say TCs are your partner and you cannot erase this without their say so....youd better work real hard to try and win TCs over all I read and see is a constant barrage of actions which only alienate the TCs and prove the biggest belief that you cannot trust GCs.


Most of these 2nd, 3rd 4th generation and so on Illegal Aliens are sitting on stolen GC properties, and once it is taken away from them, they will voluntarily head back to their motherland, if not outright kicked out. Why do you think the EU wants Turkey to sign (which Turkey doesn't want to sign) the repatriation clause for those entering the EU illegally in order for Turkey to have a visa free access to the EU for the Turks. Sounds to me like, the Illegal Aliens in Cyprus will be the first to be repatriated back to Turkey once Turkey signs the visa free accord.

I'm sure you and your family will be very happy to have been repatriated back to your roots.......in Turkey! :lol:


So you are planning on sending people back to turkey who have lived here for over 38 years who have married locals who have had children here that have also married locals....duh real clever Kikapooo.
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