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[bill cobbett]

barut if you are warned,told time and time again not to enter an area where you could get hurt, that its not allowed, that you are doing something wrong...would you still jump in feet first and cause havoc? You cannot pull the pin on a hand grenade and then complain is exploded in your face.

So you justify the brutal murder of Isaak and the cowardly one of Solomou. Because to just apprehend Isaak instead of turning on him like a pack of rabid dogs, or killing Solomou in cold blood over something as trivial as trying to tear down the Turkish flag, is what exactly? A sign of weakness by youTurks? I dont expect anything less from a Turco-fanatic but to justify such barbarity. And then you wonder why the rest of the world has such a negative view of Turks that when such things happen the response is "well, they're Turks, what else should we expect". I'm sure banananiot, with his eager-to-please-you approach, will agree 100% with you, that Isaak and Solomou deserved to die like that. So using the same twisted-logic, the Israelis killing nine Turks on the Mavi Maramara was also justified. I know you won't comment on that but there is no need to. Because it seems to me that Turks have no comprehension of the word of "hypocrisy". So you TCs make up what is it, 18% of the population of Cyprus and yet demand 51% of the political power. Well, then then ball is in your court. You should tell Mother Turkey (as opposed to Mother Goose) that the Kurds who make up 20% of the population should therefore with the same logic be given 55% of the political power in Turcoland. Yes, I know you're reaction already, "that's different", which goes back tow what I posted a couple of sentences ago. And going back to Solomou, if you're such a Kibrioti and demand the GC's de-Hellenize themselves and remove the Greek flag from the free republic, then why do you justify the cowardly murder of Solomou for attempting to tear down the Turco flag and instread applaud him for it.

Maybe banananiot you can stick can give his opinion about Isaak and Solomou. Oh no, he won't dare lose his standing amongs your uber-nationalstic Turks as one of their "good Cypriots". If anything he will applaud their deaths because of what he views as their cardinal sins of considering themselves as Greek-Cypriots. As for Boom-Boom, oh my, he'll deny they even considered themselves as such.

Barut get a grip this man walked into no mans land where all hell broke loose there was no time step around him and he was warned time and time again to get out but what did he choose to is rip down the Turkish flag, why do you think that was was? just for the fun of it? or was it to agitate the people he was fighting against, he paid the heaviest penalty but it was his own doing...if you jump into fire you will get burnt.

The Kurds want their own country and you support them but not us, why? we have an international agreement which gives us a partnership in Cyprus they have nothing but the internationally recognized borders of Turkey. But all the same what if I told you that I support the Kurds getting their own country would you do the same for me?

So VP what do you think of what happens in almost all the rest of the World...?

.. where some-one commits an alleged crime and they are arrested, charged and brought before the Courts... and where no one in their right mind would defend the extra-judicial MURDER OF SOMEONE CLIMBING A FLAG-POLE.

... and what do you think the rest of the World thought of the CLUBBING TO DEATH of a protester trapped in barbed-wire by the "police" thugs of "trnc" ...?

[Viewpoint]

In your world do they arrest soldiers that kill? all hell broke lose and no one was acting sanely.

[Hermes]

In the course of the continuing military occupation of 37 percent of the territory of the Republic of Cyprus, the Turkish army, under the actual and exclusive authority and control of the government of Turkey, committed and continues to commit the following atrocities and crimes:
Murders in cold blood of civilians, including women and old men as well as children between 6 months and eleven years. Hundreds of killings of Greek Cypriots by Turkish forces have been reported.
1,619 persons who disappeared are still missing. These persons, 993 soldiers and 626 civilians, amongst them 112 women and 26 children under the age of 16, have been missing since the Turkish invasion of Cyprus in 1974 and as a direct consequence of it. Most of these persons were arrested by Turkish soldiers and were known to be alive in the occupied area or in detention in Turkey long after the cessation of hostilities. Despite the adoption of a number of United Nations resolutions and the establishment of a Committee on Missing Persons in 1981, the fate of the 1,619 missing persons has not yet been ascertained because of obstacles put forward by the Turkish side and because of lack of any cooperation on its part.
Turkey's Genocide in Cyprus
Turkey's analysis of conduct in terms of Article II of the 1948 Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide makes it clear that Turkey committed a species of genocide as respects the Greek Cypriot community. Turkey intended to destroy the Greek Cypriots as an ethnic and religious group in the occupied area by deliberately inflicting on it conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in part and its total and permanent displacement from the occupied part of Cyprus. Unfortunately no international judicial machinery is available to arraign Turkey as she has not recognised yet the jurisdiction of the International Court of Justice.

http://www.kypros.org/Cyprus_Problem/Tu ... ies.html#4

P.S. There are more doses of it. Small ones. And painful.

The perpetrators of these war crimes should be identified, pursued through the international courts and put on trial. Just like the Israelis never stopped pursuing Nazis through the Elie Wiesenthal Center, there should be a Cypriot equivalent to identify all those Turks and Turkish Cypriots responsible for genocide as outlined in these historical documents.

[ARMENIAN CYPRIOT]

In your world do they arrest soldiers that kill? all hell broke lose and no one was acting sanely.

Just wondering is that how you feel about the Turks that ended up getting killed by the Israeli Soldiers?? They did receive warnings before being attacked and killed on that ship.

[Viewpoint]

In your world do they arrest soldiers that kill? all hell broke lose and no one was acting sanely.

Just wondering is that how you feel about the Turks that ended up getting killed by the Israeli Soldiers?? They did receive warnings before being attacked and killed on that ship.

Im not sure of the full story there but if the Turks were firing at the İsreali soldiers then the soldiers had every right to respond. The same with Cyprus the TA were under attack by the GCs thats why they brought upon themselves the wrath of Turkey....handing out flowers would have been a better idea as the guarantor was asked to come by your perverted leader makarios while begging at the UN for help.

[Kikapu]

The Kurds want their own country and you support them but not us, why? we have an international agreement which gives us a partnership in Cyprus they have nothing but the internationally recognized borders of Turkey. But all the same what if I told you that I support the Kurds getting their own country would you do the same for me?

The TCs already have a country. It's called Cyprus. What fascists like you want, is to tear up the country just so to have your own fascist state, so don't compare what you want to what the Kurds want.

[kimon07]

In your world do they arrest soldiers that kill? all hell broke lose and no one was acting sanely.

Just wondering is that how you feel about the Turks that ended up getting killed by the Israeli Soldiers?? They did receive warnings before being attacked and killed on that ship.

Im not sure of the full story there but if the Turks were firing at the İsreali soldiers then the soldiers had every right to respond. The same with Cyprus the TA were under attack by the GCs thats why they brought upon themselves the wrath of Turkey....handing out flowers would have been a better idea as the guarantor was asked to come by your perverted leader makarios while begging at the UN for help.

He was talking to you about the killing of Solomos who tried to get the turkish flag down. Don't change the subject.

[Viewpoint]

The Kurds want their own country and you support them but not us, why? we have an international agreement which gives us a partnership in Cyprus they have nothing but the internationally recognized borders of Turkey. But all the same what if I told you that I support the Kurds getting their own country would you do the same for me?

The TCs already have a country. It's called Cyprus. What fascists like you want, is to tear up the country just so to have your own fascist state, so don't compare what you want to what the Kurds want.

The Kurds have a country its called Turkey but they dont want to be part of it just like us who do not want to be a part of the "RoC", so if you support them you should also support us.

[Viewpoint]

In your world do they arrest soldiers that kill? all hell broke lose and no one was acting sanely.

Just wondering is that how you feel about the Turks that ended up getting killed by the Israeli Soldiers?? They did receive warnings before being attacked and killed on that ship.

Im not sure of the full story there but if the Turks were firing at the İsreali soldiers then the soldiers had every right to respond. The same with Cyprus the TA were under attack by the GCs thats why they brought upon themselves the wrath of Turkey....handing out flowers would have been a better idea as the guarantor was asked to come by your perverted leader makarios while begging at the UN for help.

He was talking to you about the killing of Solomos who tried to get the turkish flag down. Don't change the subject.

You what?

[Hermes]

just like us who do not want to be a part of the "RoC"

What? In another post you said the ROC is the 'foundation stone' of TC's rights on the island. Are you saying you renounce your rights as an ROC citizen? And all the 'rights' that flow from it? Are you even an RoC citizen? What are you on about? Are you drunk?