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[GreekIslandGirl]

Kikapoo whats important is how you feel and since moving to the TRNC I have never been happier ...

That's because you are a racist living among more racists. Happy as a pig in muck.

[Viewpoint]

As you are no doubt aware I am a partitionst at heart because I have no faith in the 2 sides wanting to live together but I am willing and would support a BBF with political equality of the 2 states

Give it up, VP. Your silly games fool no-one and just waste everybody's time.

The United Nations resolutions clarify that by the term “political equality”, they do not mean equality of 'two states', nor numerical equality at all levels of power.

The UN stresses the element of effective participation in power sharing (in government institutions) and in decision-making. Further, the solution will involve the transformation of the Cyprus unitary state into a federal one - nothing about 'two politically equal states'.

Will there be 2 states? YES

Will there be a Federal level? YES

Will there be a balance in political power? YES

Sounds like a BBF with political equality of two constituent states...why are you allergic to the word state?

[Hermes]

Will there be 2 states? YES

Sounds like a BBF with political equality of two constituent states...why are you allergic to the word state?

Let me make it clear for you.

Insisting on two states in a federal solution has got you nowhere. The bi-zonal aspect of a reunification plan does not mean a two-state confederation, but rather means reunifying the Turkish-Cypriots with the original government of the island - the Republic of Cyprus - which would itself offer a fair and viable administration.

Whether you call it the RoC or the United Cyprus Federation doesn't really matter, what counts is fair representation for all communities that make up Cyprus' population.

UN resolutions talk about a bi-zonal, bi-communal federation based on political equality. Clinging to the idea of legalising the 'TRNC' - or two-states - is one of the reasons negotiations have been going nowhere. This has not happened for 37 years, there's no reason for it to happen anytime soon.

In fact I'll make a new thread so you can digest it at your leisure.

cyprus38289.html

[repulsewarrior]

As you are no doubt aware I am a partitionst at heart because I have no faith in the 2 sides wanting to live together but I am willing and would support a BBF with political equality of the 2 states

Give it up, VP. Your silly games fool no-one and just waste everybody's time.

The United Nations resolutions clarify that by the term “political equality”, they do not mean equality of 'two states', nor numerical equality at all levels of power.

The UN stresses the element of effective participation in power sharing (in government institutions) and in decision-making. Further, the solution will involve the transformation of the Cyprus unitary state into a federal one - nothing about 'two politically equal states'.

Will there be 2 states? YES

Will there be a Federal level? YES

Will there be a balance in political power? YES

Sounds like a BBF with political equality of two constituent states...why are you allergic to the word state?

...there can be many states.

...there will also be a Republic, the State, representing all its Citizens as the stewards Sovereign, underwhich these states are all equal.

...read my manifesto

in answer to your questions, not too worried about the word "state", dear vp, just don't like it to be twisted to favour ethnic supremacists.

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That federation would comprise a federal government with a single international personality, along with a Turkish Cypriot constituent state and a Greek Cypriot constituent state, which would be of equal status.

[Viewpoint]

Will there be 2 states? YES

Sounds like a BBF with political equality of two constituent states...why are you allergic to the word state?

Let me make it clear for you.

Insisting on two states in a federal solution has got you nowhere. The bi-zonal aspect of a reunification plan does not mean a two-state confederation, but rather means reunifying the Turkish-Cypriots with the original government of the island - the Republic of Cyprus - which would itself offer a fair and viable administration.

Whether you call it the RoC or the United Cyprus Federation doesn't really matter, what counts is fair representation for all communities that make up Cyprus' population.

UN resolutions talk about a bi-zonal, bi-communal federation based on political equality. Clinging to the idea of legalising the 'TRNC' - or two-states - is one of the reasons negotiations have been going nowhere. This has not happened for 37 years, there's no reason for it to happen anytime soon.

In fact I'll make a new thread so you can digest it at your leisure.

cyprus38289.html

Lets make it more simple for you as you appear to be struggling, answer these questions will there be 2 constituent states north and south? will these states administer themselves on a local level???

If your answer is yes to both then we are on the right path.

[Viewpoint]

As you are no doubt aware I am a partitionst at heart because I have no faith in the 2 sides wanting to live together but I am willing and would support a BBF with political equality of the 2 states

Give it up, VP. Your silly games fool no-one and just waste everybody's time.

The United Nations resolutions clarify that by the term “political equality”, they do not mean equality of 'two states', nor numerical equality at all levels of power.

The UN stresses the element of effective participation in power sharing (in government institutions) and in decision-making. Further, the solution will involve the transformation of the Cyprus unitary state into a federal one - nothing about 'two politically equal states'.

Will there be 2 states? YES

Will there be a Federal level? YES

Will there be a balance in political power? YES

Sounds like a BBF with political equality of two constituent states...why are you allergic to the word state?

...there can be many states.

...there will also be a Republic, the State, representing all its Citizens as the stewards Sovereign, underwhich these states are all equal.

...read my manifesto

in answer to your questions, not too worried about the word "state", dear vp, just don't like it to be twisted to favour ethnic supremacists.

Quote:
That federation would comprise a federal government with a single international personality, along with a Turkish Cypriot constituent state and a Greek Cypriot constituent state, which would be of equal status.

Thank you once again for confirming the 2 states confusion and equal status of these 2 states.

[wyoming cowboy]

As you are no doubt aware I am a partitionst at heart because I have no faith in the 2 sides wanting to live together but I am willing and would support a BBF with political equality of the 2 states

Give it up, VP. Your silly games fool no-one and just waste everybody's time.

The United Nations resolutions clarify that by the term “political equality”, they do not mean equality of 'two states', nor numerical equality at all levels of power.

The UN stresses the element of effective participation in power sharing (in government institutions) and in decision-making. Further, the solution will involve the transformation of the Cyprus unitary state into a federal one - nothing about 'two politically equal states'.

Will there be 2 states? YES

Will there be a Federal level? YES

Will there be a balance in political power? YES

Sounds like a BBF with political equality of two constituent states...why are you allergic to the word state?

Will there be one man one vote?....YES

Will there be a Federal level that supercedes politically/legally both constituent states?...YES

Will there be freedom of movement throughout the whole of Cyprus?....YES

Will human/civil rights be upheld by both communities and last appeal in all cases to be referred to the Federal Supreme Court?....YES

Will all ports of entry of the ROC be controlled by the Federal government?...YES

Will all private property rights pre-74 throughout Cyprus be honored and respected?...YES

Will all illegal settlers leave and go back to anatolia?....YES

This is how a true Democratic Federal Republic of Cyprus looks like Vp........

[repulsewarrior]

...ha!

i think we are getting somewhere...

...i add that it is the displaced that deserve there due respect, first.

...although i see settlers as victims too, many will leave, some should, many will want to stay, those who qualify should be welcome grandly with homes instead of houses, something as Turkish Cypriots, the Citizens of Cyprus can provide. i see the displaced, from '63 and '74 returning as communities too, at least some; this is Justice seen.

[Hermes]

Will there be one man one vote?....YES

Will there be a Federal level that supercedes politically/legally both constituent states?...YES

Will there be freedom of movement throughout the whole of Cyprus?....YES

Will human/civil rights be upheld by both communities and last appeal in all cases to be referred to the Federal Supreme Court?....YES

Will all ports of entry of the ROC be controlled by the Federal government?...YES

Will all private property rights pre-74 throughout Cyprus be honored and respected?...YES

Will all illegal settlers leave and go back to anatolia?....YES

This is how a true Democratic Federal Republic of Cyprus looks like Vp........

Yes. To all these points.

[Hermes]

Lets get this straight the EU is prepared to lift visas on all Turkish Citizens if Turkey agrees to accepting illegal Turkish immigrants back into Turkey? Suckers.

Er, not quite:

The Republic of Cyprus warns of snags in EU visa liberalization

A Greek Cypriot minister warned on Friday that Turkey's aspirations to introduce a visa-free travel regime with the European Union will face obstacles because of Ankara's refusal to normalize its relations with her country, an EU member.

Kozakou-Marcoullis said Turkey's refusal to have normal ties with her government is an obstacle to implementation of the readmission deal. “Many things are impossible. How can you implement the readmission agreement if you refuse to cooperate with Cypriot authorities?” she asked.