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[kimon07]

"Perry: Turkey ruled by 'Islamic terrorists'?,"
by David Jackson for USA TODAY, January 17:

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Anyway, Turkey is not ruled by Islamic terrorists. Turkey is ruled by Islamic supremacists who are working to dismantle Kemalist secularism and transform Turkey into a Sharia state.

That is not at all the same thing, although Erdogan certainly shares the goal of jihad terrorists worldwide, which is to impose Sharia.

We wonder if Turkey will be filing any protests with the State Department after presidential candidate Rick Perry labeled it a virtual terrorist state during last night's Republican debate.

Asked if Turkey belongs in NATO, Perry said: "Well, obviously when you have a country that is being ruled by, what many would perceive to be Islamic terrorists, when you start seeing that type of activity against their own citizens, then yes."

The Turkish government is run by an Islamic party, but it remains a U.S. ally.

Turkey's press has already responded to Perry -- angrily.

"The debate that the Republican candidate Rick Perry attended on American Fox TV turned into a scandal that contained very ugly statements about Turkey," reported TRT state television.

Mustafa Akyol, a columnist with the English-language Hurriyet Daily news, tweeted: "Rick Perry: what an idiot."...

Indeed so. It is also interesting to note, however, that some time ago I had an interesting exchange with the self-described "liberal Muslim" Mustafa Akyol, after he declared his support for the jihad flotilla that Turkey sent against Israel. The Turkish columnist Burak Bekdil has characterized the "liberal" Akyol as a pro-Sharia, pro-Erdogan Islamic supremacist. But undoubtedly a sly one.

Bekdil says that Akyol is working to further "Islamists' global ambition to play the modern day, Muslim Trojan Horse at the gates of western civilization."
Consistent with that, Akyol also says that an Islamic Turkey is coming and that Turkish secularism cannot be salvaged, but that Israelis shouldn't be concerned: as long as they stop defending themselves against the Gaza jihadists and jihad flotillas, all will be well.

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2012/01/rick- ... rists.html

[kimon07]

Where Islamists and post-modern Islamists come together
OPINION burak-bekdil

HDN | 7/20/2010 12:00:00 AM | BURAK BEKDİL

Recep Tayyip Erdoğan should explain the discrepancy between caring for Muslims and Turks who suffer all around the world and his muteness on the tragedy of an Iranian woman of Turkish descent awaiting Sharia execution

I regret for having to devote this space to a reply to my column neighbor Mustafa Akyol’s “reply to my reply to his reply to an op-ed I wrote” last week (“Would Mr. Erdoğan kindly care for this Muslim woman?,” July 8, 2010).

When I wrote that piece, I was hoping that Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdoğan could perhaps explain the distasteful discrepancy between his selective caring for Muslims and Turks who suffer all around the world and his muteness on the tragedy of an Iranian woman of Turkish descent who was awaiting execution by stoning under a Sharia ruling.
Instead, Mr. Akyol appeared on the scene in defense of the Islamic cause with the generously common rhetoric Islamists and post-modern Islamists share to, borrowing Mr. Akyol’s description, ‘whitewash Islam’ i.e., the Islamist’s reflexive habit of going for a literalist interpretation of the Koran when in question are commandments like abstinence from pork and alcohol and his apologetic inclination toward a figurative interpretation when he thinks ‘the cause’ needs to look pretty to western friends.

Islamist Muslims (Muslims with a political agenda for the advancement of Islam both regionally and globally) have that bad habit: The perpetual feeling of fear that the western powers they need as tactical (not strategic) allies may view them with suspicion because a Muslim with a literalist interpretation of most verses of Islam’s holy book may do the same with other verses – verses that, for instance, command amputations, lashes, two women equal one man jurisprudence, sexually discriminative inheritance laws and, most importantly, hostility against other monotheistic religions, especially Judaism.

Read more:
http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/defaul ... 2010-07-20

[Maximus]

This Turkish government is not inspiring.

they are conspiring to do all things sinister and destructive.

Without misgiving to the educated few Turkish nationals, historically, Turkey is a disraceful and shameless nation that can never be trusted.

[kimon07]

This Turkish government is not inspiring.

they are conspiring to do all things sinister and destructive.

Without misgiving to the educated few Turkish nationals, historically, Turkey is a disraceful and shameless nation that can never be trusted.

Seems to me it has chosen the way to its own destruction!

(Remember Iran).

[supporttheunderdog]

My concern about Turkey is that if they get EU membership within a few years Turks will probbaly have the right to live and work anywhere in the EU: could we therefore see legally permited immigration over time in to some areas with the intent to distort the demographics and Turkify areas without illegal invasion?

Thrown in the increaing easternisation/islamnisation and all the more reason to keep them out!

[Maximus]

My concern about Turkey is that if they get EU membership within a few years Turks will probbaly have the right to live and work anywhere in the EU: could we therefore see legally permited immigration over time in to some areas with the intent to distort the demographics and Turkify areas without illegal invasion?

Thrown in the increaing easternisation/islamnisation and all the more reason to keep them out!

Indeed, and given what we currently know of the Turkish mentality, once in, expect them to cause trouble with their veto in order to provoke an incident. Turkey will find an excuse to intervene and seize a third of European territory just to protect Turkish rights to live and work in Europe.

[fig head]

This Turkish government is not inspiring.

they are conspiring to do all things sinister and destructive.

Without misgiving to the educated few Turkish nationals, historically, Turkey is a disraceful and shameless nation that can never be trusted.

It is so normal in this forum to be hateful towards Turkey, is it because it is stronger and Cypriots cant do anything about their land other than moaning and trying their best to show Turkey as a monster !!!

Not to your surprise, Turkey is rich on culture, beauty and history.. As an Arab This is how all Arabic countries should be like.. Turkey is a good example.

[Maximus]

This Turkish government is not inspiring.

they are conspiring to do all things sinister and destructive.

Without misgiving to the educated few Turkish nationals, historically, Turkey is a disraceful and shameless nation that can never be trusted.

It is so normal in this forum to be hateful towards Turkey, is it because it is stronger and Cypriots cant do anything about their land other than moaning and trying their best to show Turkey as a monster !!!

Not to your surprise, Turkey is rich on culture, beauty and history.. As an Arab This is how all Arabic countries should be like.. Turkey is a good example.

It is because of the reasons I have mentioned already, not because I am not aware that Turkey has beautiful parts and a history which began around the 1500's. Much, if not all of Turkeys cultural heritage is stolen from the western civilisation that resided there before it.

This has nothing to do with the reasons why Turkey illegally occupy's Cyprus but my opion about Turkey does stem from this though.

[supporttheunderdog]

This Turkish government is not inspiring.

they are conspiring to do all things sinister and destructive.

Without misgiving to the educated few Turkish nationals, historically, Turkey is a disraceful and shameless nation that can never be trusted.

It is so normal in this forum to be hateful towards Turkey, is it because it is stronger and Cypriots cant do anything about their land other than moaning and trying their best to show Turkey as a monster !!!

Not to your surprise, Turkey is rich on culture, beauty and history.. As an Arab This is how all Arabic countries should be like.. Turkey is a good example.

But the Turks are not Arabs.

[kimon07]

My concern about Turkey is that if they get EU membership within a few years Turks will probably have the right to live and work anywhere in the EU: could we therefore see legally permitted immigration over time in to some areas with the intent to distort the demographics and Turkify areas without illegal invasion?

Thrown in the increasing easternization/islamisation and all the more reason to keep them out!

Correct. And that is why Germany and others support their "special status" which excludes the free movement and/or establishment of persons, labour etc.