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if turkey didn't invade...

Postby boomerang » Sat Jun 09, 2012 10:42 am

what would have been the outcome?...civil war for sure but who would have won...

the enosis greek corner, the ones that didn't respect the democratic will of the people OR the patriotic cypriots?...

who would have kicked whose ass into submission...EOKA-B or cypriots...
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Re: if turkey didn't invade...

Postby Maximus » Sat Jun 09, 2012 11:11 am

The TC apartheid regime would have probably been wiped out.

The world would have supported EOKA militarily if they were going to lose but England/America had much to do with this.

Since England/America had much to do with it, the division of the island ended the violence but it also transferred non recognition to the facist Denktash et el regime that is now in suspension only because of Turkey.
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Re: if turkey didn't invade...

Postby kimon07 » Sat Jun 09, 2012 11:30 am

Conclusion. We should have welcomed the Turkish Army with roses. And then, the Filth Columnists whould have been apointed as the leaders of the Greek Cypriot Community working hand in hand with the TMT cut throats. No need for this thread to go any further. Message taken. Now that the CY presidency is close, some have decided that it is proper to start legitimizing the illegal occupation and the mafia TMT regime of the North. (Plan B is it called?). Perfect timing indeed. All snakes, insects and other creatures of the "underworld" on the job.
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Re: if turkey didn't invade...

Postby GreekIslandGirl » Sat Jun 09, 2012 11:45 am

Which invasion are we talking about?

Surely the course to what we have today was started by Turkey's first invasion, bombing and napalming Paphos villages in 1964.
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Re: if turkey didn't invade...

Postby Lordo » Sat Jun 09, 2012 12:19 pm

You know there is delusion and there is delusion but this is not it. Considering the same people came to power in 1967 in Greece and the Greek people were unable to remove them for 7 years, what chance did the Cypriot people have to remove this regime. The Greeks should be thankful to Turkey if for nothing else for removing the Junta for them. Unless of course you deluded enough to believe that the Greek people removed them.

So what would have happened. First Sampson would have killed every single Greek Cypriot that opposed him and then he would have asked Dengtash for a Tea and toasted sandwiches party and and perhaps a few glasses of zivania.

Sampson said himself. After one week in power we have 98% of all the lands that Turkish Cypriots had since 1963. This is after 35% of the Turkish Cypriots were ethnically cleansed from their land. Considering there were very few incidences between the two communities between 1968 and 1974, how many of these people actually felt safe enough to return to their land? I am only aware of one person. Is anybody aware of any others?
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Re: if turkey didn't invade...

Postby boomerang » Sat Jun 09, 2012 12:32 pm

kimon07 wrote:Conclusion. We should have welcomed the Turkish Army with roses. And then, the Filth Columnists whould have been apointed as the leaders of the Greek Cypriot Community working hand in hand with the TMT cut throats. No need for this thread to go any further. Message taken. Now that the CY presidency is close, some have decided that it is proper to start legitimizing the illegal occupation and the mafia TMT regime of the North. (Plan B is it called?). Perfect timing indeed. All snakes, insects and other creatures of the "underworld" on the job.

no doubt about it you are a box head...your response has nothing to do with the topic...

and who died and put you in charge in demanding the thread should not go any further...

you just can't stand the fact the turks might have saved your sorry ass... :mrgreen:

ok little kimon let's simplify it for you...who was winning prior to the turksish invasion in '74...the greek wannabies or the cypriots read patriots...
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Re: if turkey didn't invade...

Postby umit07 » Sat Jun 09, 2012 1:02 pm

I personally believe that had the Turkish Army not not invaded, the Cypriot state would have ceded to Greece. I find it hard to comprehend that Makarios changed allegiance from viewing independence as a stepping stone to supporting a truly independent Republic of Cyprus. Makarios made a tactical decision in appearing to support independence amid the junta rule in Athens, with the grand strategy of ENOSIS still at heart. It seems the people who gained from the invasion were Turkey (taking back a chunk of Cyprus) and Greece who finally rid herself of the junta. What a price to pay.
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Re: if turkey didn't invade...

Postby boomerang » Sat Jun 09, 2012 1:37 pm

hiya umit...

from my understanding the coup would have collapsed if turkey hadn't invaded...there was a lot of support form the cypriots against the coupists...therefore it would have prevented enosis...

the plan of course was a double enosis all along...and with that inmind i agree with maximus outside powers would have supported the coupists...
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Re: if turkey didn't invade...

Postby GreekIslandGirl » Sat Jun 09, 2012 1:45 pm

Ring ring!


- 1964

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Re: if turkey didn't invade...

Postby boomerang » Sat Jun 09, 2012 2:02 pm

GreekIslandGirl wrote:Ring ring!


- 1964

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embros...1964?...
:arrow: ne alla miloumen 1974...the civil war backed by greece...against the will of the majority of the patriotic cypriot people...

hopefully blind freddy can read this...comprehending?...not so sure... :mrgreen:
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