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[Maximus]

Didnt the TC's fight against independence and hijack the RoC from the GC's in collusion with the anglo americans?

They ended up with dependency on Turkey, non recognition and now on the verge of extinction. The irony!

[Lordo]

The forum is littered with points scoring and general crap, do it else where. If you have a real event to post please do it. Particularly if it is relevant to the timescale other wise we will be running around like headless chickens.

I notice the first event you read that suits you and you jumped out of your screen. What's with large text?

[Maximus]

Lordo,

we have got the the root of the cyprob already.

[Lordo]

Have we indeed? And who is we exactly? Do you always speak for all Cypriots? How magnanimous of you.

Judging by the comments you come up with boy, you ain't even got the leaves never mind the root of this here problem, now unless you have some event you are aware of, go play with your playstation.

[GreekIslandGirl]

6th of December Turkey refused the amendments.

Says it all.

He still doesn't understand.

A comment like the above; casually thrown in as an accusation against the GCs and he still thinks there are any more "Real Events of the Cyprus Problem".

[Maximus]

and he is calling me boy!

[Lordo]

6th of December Turkey refused the amendments.

Says it all.

He still doesn't understand.

A comment like the above; casually thrown in as an accusation against the GCs and he still thinks there are any more "Real Events of the Cyprus Problem".

Who is he dear girl?
And who is making an accusation. Are you really unable to separate events from accusations. I get a feeling you young spring chickens not only have not got a clue but do not want to find out either. Ignorance is bliss. Considering you are against science being taught at school and is keen to teach children creationism in a biology lesson I think the less said about you the better, but I am sure the barby doll is beckoning.

The fact that the new dictatorship in Turkey was the deep state and was against an agreement is not new. However it is a significant even.

Strange how you noticed that but did not notice Dr Kucuk saying he will consider the request with an answer in Januray.

[GreekIslandGirl]

6th of December Turkey refused the amendments.

Says it all.

He still doesn't understand.

A comment like the above; casually thrown in as an accusation against the GCs and he still thinks there are any more "Real Events of the Cyprus Problem".

Who is he dear girl?
And who is making an accusation. Are you really unable to separate events from accusations. I get a feeling you young spring chickens not only have not got a clue but do not want to find out either. Ignorance is bliss. Considering you are against science being taught at school and is keen to teach children creationism in a biology lesson I think the less said about you the better, but I am sure the barby doll is beckoning.

The fact that the new dictatorship in Turkey was the deep state and was against an agreement is not new. However it is a significant even.

Strange how you noticed that but did not notice Dr Kucuk saying he will consider the request with an answer in Januray.

I was waiting for you to put in that "qualifier". It further proves my point.

(BTW I don't think you are in any position to paraphrase what I have said about evolution )

[Maximus]

Consider that the answer was.......NO........The TC's wanted to keep the apartheid regime to persecute and oppress the GC's, just like the ottomans did.

[kimon07]

Lordo. You are wasting your time and ours. Your answers, in respect to facts, month by month, day and hour by hour are in the book "The Bloody Truth". Now, if you don't like it, suit yourself. At last, since you like Dr. Ihsan Ali so much, take his version from his memoirs. Oh, yes, I forgot. You can not find them right? Misplaced them, did you? Well, let me help you. Here is a small sample of them

Dr. Ihsan Ali: Memoirs (from chapter 6)

http://www.ihsanali.org/Default.aspx?_P ... ontent=102

The London-Zurich Agreements created the phenomenon of a state. It was very difficult for the two communities to collaborate in harmony within such a state, with a constitution that had no parallel anywhere in the world. Three years after the inception of the Constitution the first bloody incidents broke out, known as "the 1963 incidents". In my opinion, both Turkey and Greece had committed a big historic mistake by approving the Agreements and helping in imposing them on the Cypriot people.

Abandoning Cyprus after a four-year guerrilla warfare waged by EOKA, the Colonial Power chose to sow the seeds of disruption, as it did elsewhere. The Colonialists believed that they could plant those seeds through the London-Zurich Agreements. The Colonial Power managed to secure the support of the Turkish Cypriot leadership as well as of Turkey and Greece in implementing this policy.
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The percentage of Turkish public servants and policemen (30 per cent), as required by the Constitution, was far higher than the proportion of the population, while the percentage of Turkish forces (TURDYK) was 40 per cent and that of the Greek forces (ELDYK) 60 per cent. Recognition of the right of veto by the Turkish Cypriot Vice-President, separate courts, separate municipalities, and, above all, the presence of Turkish and Greek forces in Cyprus all appeared very attractive to the Turkish side and were considered its great success. However, it was the Colonialists who had really succeeded. All their efforts concentrated on doing everything within their power to secure the acceptance of a constitution that sooner or later could cause a clash between the two communities. They believed that, with the mutual destruction that would be created among the Cypriot people, they would secure their own military bases, which they had managed to consolidate with the Zurich Constitution.
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The aim of the Constitution and of the London-Zurich Agreements, which was none other than the ultimate clash of the two communities, did not take long to materialize. In December 1963, intercommunal troubles broke out.

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When the Archbishop proposed the "13 amendments" to the constitution, aiming at a smoother functioning of the state mechanism, Denktash, instead of suggesting to Turkey to consider the proposal with good will, did exactly the opposite. He exploited the proposal so as to provoke the bloody events of 1963. There is evidence attesting to that. For instance, before those events took place, he had forced the Turkish Cypriots living in towns to abandon their houses which were in Greek Cypriot residential areas. He had also forced the Turkish Cypriots living in mixed villages to abandon them, arguing that the Greek Cypriots were going to attack them. This plan aimed at the creation of fait accompli which would lead to the materialization of partition. Through terrorism, he tried to keep the Turkish Cypriot Community away from the Greek Cypriot. Since then, many Turkish Cypriots have thus become refugees.


One of those Turkish Cypriots who courageously supported the policy of coexistence was Dervish Kavazoglu who was killed by Denktash's terrorist organization in an ambush. His Greek friend Mishaoulis was also killed with him.

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Many, I believe, know about the assassination of Ayhan Hikmet and Muzafer Gurkan. These two lawyers were against Denktash's policy and supported the co-existence of the two communities

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The assassination of the two lawyers upset Dirvana who, through a report to the Turkish Foreign Ministry, asked for the Turkish Cypriot leadership to be changed. This request was rejected. Considering this a matter of prestige and dignity, Dirvana submitted his resignation.

It is very easy to draw the conclusion that there existed a triple co-operation among Britain, the Turkish Cypriot leadership and Turkey, judging from the fact that the Turkish Ministry of Foreign Affairs preferred to sacrifice a worthy ambassador rather than the Turkish Cypriot leadership.

I can post many many more painful (for you) facts from his memoirs. But, being a polite soul, I would rather let you go through them in privacy and thus save you from the embarrassment. But if you insist otherwise...........