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[Piratis]

If a peace deal is signed, what is the purpose of going before that time.

It wasn't a "peace deal" but just something that you blackmailed and forced Makarios to sign, just another crime of yours against Cyprus.

We can go back 10,000 years, what will is serve?

This is a question you should have asked yourself when you started this thread. You started this thread claiming that you want to get to the root of the Cyprus Problem and you went back to 1959. Now you tell us that going to 1958 serves no purpose? Well that depends on what is your purpose. Apparently your real purpose is to present selective parts of history to blame the GCs for the Cyprus Problem, and therefore talking about the root of the problem doesn't serve your purpose.

Regarding the alleged quotes of Makarios, why aren't there any such quotes about Armenians, Maronites, Latins or any other ethnic groups? Are you suggesting that those comments came out of the blue and that they are the root of the Cyprus Problem which didn't exist until those comments were allegedly made?

When the TCs burned down the homes and shops of Greek Cypriots in June 1958 there was no Cyprus Problem? When on 12th of June 1958 the TCs massacred 8 GCs there was no Cyprus Problem? When the TCs were demanding the annihilation of the majority of Cypriots from half of their island there was no problem? When broadcasts from Turkey were inciting TCs to murder GCs and start a civil war there was no problem? When the TCs collaborated with UK and Turkey and blackmailed Makarios to sign some racist and undemocratic agreement there was no Cyprus Problem?

[Maximus]

It seems that the TC's do not recognize the obvious persecution and racial discrimination they had/have towards GC's.

Just blind victims from the effect of their own cause.

[B25]

Start your date from 1571, you came to this island unwelcome and have fucked it up since. You shitheads are the root cause of the cyprus prolem today. Cause and effect. You were the cause, today problem is the effect. Get rid of the cause, problem solved. So why dont you fuck off outta here to solve our problem, you MFs.
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Come on B25, Gardash, this is a good thread, its one that I'll definitely keep an eye on during my rare visits to the forum these days. What you wrote above is trully a disgrace. Do you think this is doing your cause any good? telling someone who's been here for centuries that he should fuck off? If anybody in public told me to fuck off from England because I'm a foreigner that person would go to prison. You claim to be european so I'm inviting you to behave like one. If you got anything to say and debate then do it, otherwise just read and move on. Well done Lordo, good work.

Yeah, I know, it's just that this prat gets under my skin, throws in unsubstantiated comments, passes them on as fact with no supporting evidence or links. It's the only way to appeal to their senses really, gardash.
This propoganda stirring that Yfuck is producing, he has done it on more than one occasion and the end result is just a shit stirrer.

All the same, there are others far more worthy than me to answer him in a more civil manner, I don't have time or patience for these idiots.

How you keeping all the same??

I understand your frustration Gardash and to be honest over a period of time I've come to realise that you are in fact a nice person and can be pleasant and that is the B25 I like. You obviously love Cyprus and you are a proud Cypriot, so in that regard we have something in common.

I'm keeping well Gardash, thanks for asking. I hope we will one day share a beer or 2 and have a good laugh about our silly fights on the forum.

PS, I made a promise to myself to keep cool, calm and collected and believe or not it has helped with my road rage which happened frequently, it has helped at work and at home. You could be one of the nicest contributors on the forum if you remind yourself to practise the 3 C's

Well i have to agree with that. I dunno what to say now! I actually promised myself that i was going to stop posting as it makes me very angry and bitter and that s not my character. Maybe i will take your advice gardash and see if it helps, cheers. As for the beer, we shall see.
Take it easy.

[Lordo]

So what was it that the GCs objected to?

We have the 13 amendments required.

We also had a temporary arrangement to run the Municipalities. The Government was working.

And of course Makarios first being opposed to unified municipalities decided to unify them and why?

Because it was the thin end of the wedge. The idea was to break the will of the Turkish Cypriots. And of course the one demand was never mentioned explicitly by Makarios was Enosis.

And of course this leads to the next event.

December 1962. The Greek delegates in the House of Representatives voted unanimously against the extension of temporary legalisation, in spite of Turkish pleading for more time.The municipalities were thus left, at the end of 1962, with no legal cover at all.

Was this not playing with fire.

[Lordo]

25th of Januray, Bayraktar Mosques is bombed and two other unexploded bombs are found.

1st of April Makarios makes a speech at EOKA day. where he says "As we bow before their graves, we hear the commanding voices of our martyrs beyond the Graves "march forward" .

19th of April Avreof sends a letter to Makarios not to attempt to change the constitution unilaterally.

[B25]

Lordo, I hope you are having a nice day, chill gardash, you'll live longer

[MR-from-NG]

Lordo, I hope you are having a nice day, chill gardash, you'll live longer

Priceless

[Lordo]

I am the most chilled person you will find. Do not worry about me. Especially ever since I found that those who smile most live longer. Coupled with the fact that a pomegranate is a supper food and I was raised on them. But my delight could not be surpassed when I found out that tomatoes have viagra properties. Now that made my day as I used to grow them by the ton and eat them too.

Now, are you eating plenty of pomegranates and tomatoes?

[Lordo]

16th July 1963.

Makarios has a meeting with Clerides. Clerides makes a note in his diary, " Makarios intention is to remove the Turkish Cypriot rights step by step"

1st December 1963 - Makarios proposal for the 13 ammendments given to the Dr Kutchuk.

3rd of December 1963 - Dracos Statue was bombed. Yorgadjis said " The placing of a bomb at a statue of a hero is cowardly and barborous act to be condemned by every civilised and free men."
Of course he would know about that. It was his men that did it. Funny how the guilty is always first on the scene. Not that different to what sampson used to do in the 50s. First shoot them and then take a picture to report it. Very clever ploy.

6th of December Turkey refused the amendments. Kutchuk sent a message back saying he will consider the request and will reply by January.

19th of December - Mudbrick building blocking the view of GCs into Omorphita knocked down.
GC elementary school in Trachones was stcoked with weapons when 2 TC police men went to investigate they were told it was just costumes for the Christmass Play.

[GreekIslandGirl]

6th of December Turkey refused the amendments.

Says it all.