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[Lordo]

Regarding Georgadjis, he was in London for health reasons, on his way back he went to Athens to talkd to Avreof. He asked him to supply weapons to Cyprus even though it was against UN Resolutions. At first He said he will think about it and asked to meet him again.
During the second meeting discussions got a bit heated up between them as to the legality of such action and Avreof had the his guards come into the room, and then told him that if he was not out of there in 2 minutes he will be thrown out.

Whilst Georgadjis was there, he met met with Georgios Papadobullos who was then in Greek Secret Serviece for help in arms which he supplied, which of course was leader of Junta during the coup. So here is the first connection to 1974.

[Lordo]

in March 1961 the TCs vetoed the Budget, but why?
Because Makarios included the unification of the local authorities in it. He did this knowing that they would.
I am not interested in his private life and what MI5 or MI6 says about him. I am more interested in his character.

Here is what he said about himself.
Asked about his negotiating tactics.
"It's my strategy. It always has been. I mean, I've always enjoyed the game of pushing myself to the edge of the abyss and then stopping so as not to fall. You see what I mean? It's not that I stop at the last moment because I realize the abyss is there; I calculate to the millimeter that I can go that far and no further. The others, naturally, think I'm about to fall, to commit suicide. Instead I go along very quietly, knowing I'll put on the brakes.
It was the same with the abbot. I hadn't the slightest intention of leaving the monastery; I liked it too much. But I knew that by making him believe the contrary and taking his beating, he'd give in and accept a compromise that for me was a victory."

There were some brakes he was unable to put on, unfortunately for us he found out about it too late.

So why did Makarios insist on the unified local authorities when he was so much against them before the agreement? And only after such a short period.

[Lordo]

February 1961 less than 6 months after independence and Akritas plan is formed.

Georgadjis Leader
Tassos Papadobullos deputy
Goshis Chief of Staff
Clerides participating in administaration

Members of a democratically elected government setting up the the destruction of the country.


Geogadjis invited members of EOKA to a meeting and to reform it.
Present were Spyros Kyprianou, Andreas Papadobullos and Tasos Papadobullos
He spoke openly about National Fulfillment. He also said ""a broad stage is opening up for a new struggles, where everyone is once more summoned to play a part in the arena of the great conflict and finally it will succeed in accordance with our desires and and aspirations.
Then he declared the beginning of the new struggle for EOKA.

[MR-from-NG]

Start your date from 1571, you came to this island unwelcome and have fucked it up since. You shitheads are the root cause of the cyprus prolem today. Cause and effect. You were the cause, today problem is the effect. Get rid of the cause, problem solved. So why dont you fuck off outta here to solve our problem, you MFs.
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Come on B25, Gardash, this is a good thread, its one that I'll definitely keep an eye on during my rare visits to the forum these days. What you wrote above is trully a disgrace. Do you think this is doing your cause any good? telling someone who's been here for centuries that he should fuck off? If anybody in public told me to fuck off from England because I'm a foreigner that person would go to prison. You claim to be european so I'm inviting you to behave like one. If you got anything to say and debate then do it, otherwise just read and move on. Well done Lordo, good work.

Yeah, I know, it's just that this prat gets under my skin, throws in unsubstantiated comments, passes them on as fact with no supporting evidence or links. It's the only way to appeal to their senses really, gardash.
This propoganda stirring that Yfuck is producing, he has done it on more than one occasion and the end result is just a shit stirrer.

All the same, there are others far more worthy than me to answer him in a more civil manner, I don't have time or patience for these idiots.

How you keeping all the same??

I understand your frustration Gardash and to be honest over a period of time I've come to realise that you are in fact a nice person and can be pleasant and that is the B25 I like. You obviously love Cyprus and you are a proud Cypriot, so in that regard we have something in common.

I'm keeping well Gardash, thanks for asking. I hope we will one day share a beer or 2 and have a good laugh about our silly fights on the forum.

PS, I made a promise to myself to keep cool, calm and collected and believe or not it has helped with my road rage which happened frequently, it has helped at work and at home. You could be one of the nicest contributors on the forum if you remind yourself to practise the 3 C's

[Piratis]

Regarding why start in 1960, because when an agreement is signed it should be honoured otherwise there is no point in trying to live together.

First of all you did not and you do not honor any agreement.

Furthermore an agreement doesn't erase your crimes from the history of Cyprus. On the contrary, the way you got that agreement signed, by murdering Cypriots and blackmailing Makarios, is yet another in the long list of crimes you committed against Cyprus.

No agreement in the past or the future will erase any of your crimes from the history of Cyprus. The only thing that is possible is to be forgiven for those crimes, and since we are forgiving people we are willing to forgive you, but that will happen only if you finally start respecting the human and democratic rights of the Cypriot people.

Apparently you don't want to "get to the root of it all" as you claimed on your initial post but on the contrary you seem to want to erase from history what is the root of the Cyprus problem. The Cyprus Problem existed before 1960 or 1959 and evidently the racist undemocratic agreement that you forced Makarios to sign didn't solve the problem, as anybody with more than 2 grams of brain should have been able to predict.

[Viewpoint]

But are we willing to forgive you for your crimes against TCs and Cyprus?

[Maximus]

But are we willing to forgive you for your crimes against TCs and Cyprus?

This is the root of the problem.

The Republic of Cyprus was a British/American scam, a RASCIST republic where after; the TC's did nothing to overt an impending civil war against their apartheid regime. This was encouraged and also stirred by Denktash, et el, and so, this piece of paper agreement was to be justified through ethnic cleansing, destruction of Cypriot cultural heritage, and all other kinds of crimes against humanity. Dark, disturbing and ugly! Aphrodite got raped because of Turkishness.

Nothing would change today, if the British and the Americans put a Kurdish apartheid in Turkey, soon and likely there will be a civil war and a country divided.

[Viewpoint]

But are we willing to forgive you for your crimes against TCs and Cyprus?

This is the root of the problem.

The Republic of Cyprus was a British/American scam, a RASCIST republic where after; the TC's did nothing to overt an impending civil war against their apartheid regime. This was encouraged and also stirred by Denktash, et el, an so this piece of paper agreement was to be justified through ethnic cleansing, destruction of Cypriot cultural heritage, and all other kinds of crimes against humanity. Dark, disturbing and ugly! Aphrodite got raped because of Turkishness.

Nothing would change today, if the British and the Americans put a Kurdish apartheid in Turkey, soon and likely there will be a civil war and a country divided.

So you are thinking of attacking us yet again?

[Lordo]

If a peace deal is signed, what is the purpose of going before that time. We can go back 10,000 years, what will is serve?

You talk about TCs not honouring their agreements an yet 6 months after an agreement we have the government ministers set about destroying it.
On 4th September 1962 Makarios gave a speech and said “Until this small Turkish community that forms part of the Turkish race which has been the terrible enemy of Hellenism is expelled, the duty to the heroes of EOKA cannot be considered as terminated”

This which was the subject of a formal protest from the Turkish side.
How can you interpret such a comment. What does it mean?
How did it make the TCs feel about their existance.

1st of April 1963 on EOKA day he said:
" As we bow before their graves, we hear the commanding voices of our martyrs beyond the Graves, march forward"
Dengtash responded by asking for his resignation and commenting "If that's what he is hearing, he will be sending thousands more to their graves"

Are these comments acceptable coming from the President of the country?

[Maximus]

But are we willing to forgive you for your crimes against TCs and Cyprus?

This is the root of the problem.

The Republic of Cyprus was a British/American scam, a RASCIST republic where after; the TC's did nothing to overt an impending civil war against their apartheid regime. This was encouraged and also stirred by Denktash, et el, an so this piece of paper agreement was to be justified through ethnic cleansing, destruction of Cypriot cultural heritage, and all other kinds of crimes against humanity. Dark, disturbing and ugly! Aphrodite got raped because of Turkishness.

Nothing would change today, if the British and the Americans put a Kurdish apartheid in Turkey, soon and likely there will be a civil war and a country divided.

So you are thinking of attacking us yet again?

I don't go about thinking about attacking people, that's is just absurd.

what will never change though, for as long as man is on this earth, is his fight for freedom from tyranny.