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Re: Is UK a nation?

Postby Get Real! » Fri Jul 20, 2012 1:45 am

To me “nation” simply means the Cypriot people in my country with whom I live and work on a daily basis as a big family with the common goal to see our country advance and prosper.

I haven’t the slightest interest in grouping my country with other countries just because we have one or two things in common like language and/or religion!

I simply don’t give a shit if other countries have common things with mine, and all that matters to me is if we have the same border around us! If not then we are aliens to one another… end of story! :wink:

Of course, that doesn’t mean that I treat aliens like shit, but they are still bloody foreigners in my happy and healthy racist world!

Ta ta! :D
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Re: Is UK a nation?

Postby supporttheunderdog » Fri Jul 20, 2012 6:38 am

The word is that the scots are now having second thoughts about independence because it will cost them too much.
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Re: Is UK a nation?

Postby Piratis » Fri Jul 20, 2012 7:03 am

I simply don’t give a shit if other countries have common things with mine, and all that matters to me is if we have the same border around us! If not then we are aliens to one another… end of story!


The problem GR is when those borders are decided by foreigners, and not by us. If it was up to us there would be no borders between Cyprus, the Greek mainland and all other Greek islands.

If your idea of a "nation" is defined by borders then if the "trnc" is recognized, and we have another border imposed by foreigners, would that mean that the north part of Cyprus would stop being part of your nation and that even the enclaved Greek Cypriots would become foreigners to you?

Personally I refuse to have foreigners deciding what my nation and ethnic identity is. If some foreigners decided that we are "just Cypriot" and not Greek it means nothing to me, just like it would mean nothing if one day those same foreigners tell me that I am supposedly just "South Cypriot". Those imperialists might have the power to set borders, but they have no power over my identity.
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Re: Is UK a nation?

Postby GreekIslandGirl » Fri Jul 20, 2012 8:19 am

And as the Ancient Greeks have always said, it has less to do with birth and more to do with behaviour, what constitutes a Greek and a Barbarian ... Yet the White Anglo Saxons maintained their own purity and uniqueness in true HG Wells Eugenics' fashion (and supported by some, STUD).

Now their "White" Anglo-Saxon dreams are shuttered ...

“It is further proof that even white Anglo-Saxon Protestants are descended from a black Eve.”

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/scie ... itain.html

:D

(BTW There's a flaw in this article, due to the reporting, probably.)
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Re: Is UK a nation?

Postby kurupetos » Fri Jul 20, 2012 12:27 pm

Get Real! wrote:To me “nation” simply means the Cypriot people in my country with whom I live and work on a daily basis as a big family with the common goal to see our country advance and prosper.

I haven’t the slightest interest in grouping my country with other countries just because we have one or two things in common like language and/or religion!

I simply don’t give a shit if other countries have common things with mine, and all that matters to me is if we have the same border around us! If not then we are aliens to one another… end of story! :wink:

Of course, that doesn’t mean that I treat aliens like shit, but they are still bloody foreigners in my happy and healthy racist world!

Ta ta! :D

I will register you in the Cypriot National Socialist Movement. :mrgreen:
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Re: Is UK a nation?

Postby EricSeans » Wed Jul 25, 2012 9:07 pm

supporttheunderdog wrote:The word is that the scots are now having second thoughts about independence because it will cost them too much.


And that word is propagated by an overwhelmingly Unionist-supporting print media, which despite their best efforts twice failed to stop the Scottish people from voting for a Nationalist government supporting independence from the UK - overwhelmingly so in the last election. Talk about backing a loser (Labour) and misjudging your readers.

Being an independent country is less about money and more about being in control of your own affairs and destiny. It's a state of mind. We may be surrounded with red, white and blue for now - first the Jubilee and now the London Olympics - but a lot of debate can happen in the two years between now and the referendum on Scottish independence. Like our hosting American nuclear weapons of mass destruction on Scottish soil, the sending of North Sea oil revenue down to London and the widely-ignored, English-imposed ban on wearing kilts, tartan and possession of bagpipes. :lol:
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Re: Is UK a nation?

Postby EricSeans » Thu Jul 26, 2012 3:28 pm

Sotos wrote:Why isn't there one UK or British national team and instead there are separate teams for England, Scotland, Wales and N.Ireland? Is UK one nation? Or is it different nations that are united in one Kingdom? And did the people of England, Scotland, Wales and N.Ireland vote in a referendum to unite under one Kingdom... or the English forced it on the rest?


Scotland competes as a nation under its own flag in the Commonwealth Games but as part of Great Britain under the Union Flag in the Olympics.

Scotland is an ancient nation which was united politically with England in 1707. The ordinary people of Scotland had no say in the arrangement, which was the result of several factors. In 1999, the Scottish Parliament (which had been adjourned in 1707 and not abolished) reconvened after a break of nearly 300 years. So we have a grown-up government and parliament which are ready and waiting to regain sovereign control.

All we need to do to become a normal European country again is to reactivate our armed forces and foreign embassies and regain control of macro-economics. We did it before and we can do it again.
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Re: Is UK a nation?

Postby Southerner » Fri Aug 10, 2012 11:31 am

GreekIslandGirl wrote:It is a recent political construct enforcedby the most prolific invaders, the Germanic Anglo Saxons, who conquered the people previously being ruledby the Norman French who themselves took over ruling the land mapped and named, Prettania,by Pytheas the Greek - whose navigational charts paved the way for the Romans to invade and civilize (using their Greek-taught skills) the ad hoc mixture of Picts, Celts and Druids who had much earlier descended from Europe, having been taught how to farm and exploreby the autochthonous peoples of the Greek world. :D


Well the Greek skilles didn't amount to much when the Romans thrashed them and made them part of the Roman Empire.

The Norman French were not French but descendents of Vikings (Norsmen)
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