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by **kimon07** » Sat Jun 02, 2012 9:19 pm

repulsewarrior wrote:...the UK is not a Nation, it is a State.

Let's not confuse terms. You can have a state which governs a nation (republics of France, Greece, Germany, Russia etc) and multinational states such as the UK and what USSR and Yugoslavia used to be. The United Kingdom is indeed the state which follows the royal/parliamentary system and which governs four different nations.

by **Bananiot** » Sat Jun 02, 2012 10:52 pm

So much rubbish condensed in such a few posts ....

by **Sotos** » Sun Jun 03, 2012 12:07 am

What is rubbish Banana? :roll:

Some enemies of Cyprus say that Cyprus is a different nation from Greece. That is a lie without a doubt! But even if it was true that wouldn't mean that Cyprus couldn't be part of the Greek state... just like England, Scotland, Wales and N.Ireland are part of the same state! 80% of Cypriots wanted union but that was not good enough for these colonialists... when the union of their own state is supported by a much less percentage! The double standards and hypocrisy of these Colonialists have no bounds!

by **repulsewarrior** » Sun Jun 03, 2012 4:30 am

...well said Sotos. but, whereas the interlocutors see the value of this land more as Property, it is the Cypriots that are left voiceless, as the Nations within it, place their interest above this Sovereignty as one People. as the British have a United Kingdom, so too Cyprus, Cypriots, Individuals, but as Persons sustaining National Identities (this is Bicommunal).

...Nation-States may exist, Greece is an example; Turkey is a Nation-State because the Kemalists have denied the diversity of the Turkish People in favour of "Turkishness": but for the most part a Modern State is no longer, simply a Nation. off the top of my head i reason that Scottish Independence is a reaffirmation of their Identity as a State and it is possible that this desire will be granted because over several hundred years their identity as Scots remains. it takes a great country like the UK to give this ideal any consideration.

by **Bananiot** » Sun Jun 03, 2012 7:55 am

This is an insult to anybody's intelligence. I'll not carry on, making parallels of football with nations or states, ignoring the historical details of how each and every state was brought about, making generalisations that can only apply if there is total uniformity etc, is the trademark of embryonic thought. That is enough.

by **Sotos** » Sun Jun 03, 2012 8:11 am

The trademark is how you kiss the behind of every foreign power that occupies Cyprus. Their double standards and hypocrisy are exposed again and you are shown to be their most devoted pet dog!

by **kimon07** » Mon Jun 04, 2012 9:53 am

kimon07 wrote:I think the Scots are to have a referendum soon on whether to become independent?

Scottish independence: One million Scots urged to sign 'yes' declaration
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-s ... s-18162832

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The "yes" campaign for independence wants one million Scots to sign a declaration of support by the time of the referendum in the autumn of 2014.
Scotland's First Minister Alex Salmond said independence would happen if that milestone was achieved.

by **yialousa1971** » Fri Jul 20, 2012 1:13 am

Sotos wrote:Why isn't there one UK or British national team and instead there are separate teams for England, Scotland, Wales and N.Ireland? Is UK one nation? Or is it different nations that are united in one Kingdom? And did the people of England, Scotland, Wales and N.Ireland vote in a referendum to unite under one Kingdom... or the English forced it on the rest?

No is the answer. :!:

by **yialousa1971** » Fri Jul 20, 2012 1:14 am

Bananiot wrote:So much rubbish condensed in Bananas posts ....

by **Get Real!** » Fri Jul 20, 2012 1:38 am

Sotos wrote:What is rubbish Banana? Some enemies of Cyprus say that Cyprus is a different nation from Greece. That is a lie without a doubt! But even if it was true that wouldn't mean that Cyprus couldn't be part of the Greek state... just like England, Scotland, Wales and N.Ireland are part of the same state! 80% of Cypriots wanted union but that was not good enough for these colonialists... when the union of their own state is supported by a much less percentage! The double standards and hypocrisy of these Colonialists have no bounds!

The word “nation” has many INFORMAL meanings which people take in a variety of combinations to concoct their own version that suits their mental needs so your case is dismissed.

Next idiot please… :roll: