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[humanist]

I am not so against settlers personally. I believe in a United Cyprus if they are willing to undertake Cypriot citizenship under one national identity, one citizenship and one United Cyprus they have the right to remain and legal immigrants and need to go through proper chanells

[Maximus]

Did the GCs have anything to do with the current division and Turkeys presence.

of course, the Greek Cypriots fought for independence and then AGAIN against a Turkish apartheid regime and against all the odds and two generations later, they are still winning.

Did the TC's have anything to do with the current division and Turkeys presence and the importation of Turks into the Republic of Cyprus?

[Maximus]

I am not so against settlers personally. I believe in a United Cyprus if they are willing to undertake Cypriot citizenship under one national identity, one citizenship and one United Cyprus they have the right to remain and legal immigrants and need to go through proper chanells

The settlers, they may predominately help the TC local economy and then the greater Cypriot economy. The TCs can deal with them, in their 'zone' which should be less approximately, 20% of the total territory. This does not mean the Republic has to give them citizenship, they can apply for a working visa, until (IF EVER) Turkey joins the EU, then everything changes.

If they all stay, they will be packed in like a tin of sardines up their.

[supporttheunderdog]

I am not so against settlers personally. I believe in a United Cyprus if they are willing to undertake Cypriot citizenship under one national identity, one citizenship and one United Cyprus they have the right to remain and legal immigrants and need to go through proper chanells

The settlers, they may predominately help the TC local economy and then the greater Cypriot economy. The TCs can deal with them, in their 'zone' which should be less approximately, 20% of the total territory. This does not mean the Republic has to give them citizenship, they can apply for a working visa, until (IF EVER) Turkey joins the EU, then everything changes.

If they all stay, they will be packed in like a tin of sardines up their.

yes but where would the settlers live bearing in mind in any settlement the properties they occupy should probably be returned to the pre 74 Cypriot owners who were displaced by the invasion.?

[Maximus]

the TCs can steer their own little ship, they can decide about the settlers further to a territorial adjustment, this should not in any way shape of form supersede the right of the displaced Cypriot and his/her wishe with regards to his/her property.

[supporttheunderdog]

the TCs can steer their own little ship, they can decide about the settlers further to a territorial adjustment, this should not in any way shape of form supersede the right of the displaced Cypriot and his/her wishe with regards to his/her property.

[Maximus]

the TCs can steer their own little ship, they can decide about the settlers further to a territorial adjustment, this should not in any way shape of form supersede the right of the displaced Cypriot and his/her wish with regards to his/her property.

and if they wish the settlers and Turks alike, can pay and apply for a visa via the TC authority to holiday in the Greek Cypriot 'zone'.

[humanist]

The settlers, they may predominately help the TC local economy and then the greater Cypriot economy. The TCs can deal with them, in their 'zone' which should be less approximately, 20% of the total territory. This does not mean the Republic has to give them citizenship, they can apply for a working visa, until (IF EVER) Turkey joins the EU, then everything changes.

If they all stay, they will be packed in like a tin of sardines up their.

Maximus I hold a different view. I disagree with reunification based on two zones. I believe in one Cyprus where all Cypriots live work and socialise together in a harmonious manner. To this end I believe that any agreement reached and settlers stay they should be fully fledged in the the Cypriot society. They should undergo same immigration steps and procedures as any other. The reason for this is that settlers have now been in Cyprus for over 3 decades. Some have married into TC families and the family is a strong supportive unit and people should be allowed to remain together. To this end it is foolish from the GC perspective to say all settlers out.

I think just like they can contribute to TC economy they will be able to do so in the Republic as well. Upon reunification and with them having citizenship some will naturally move to other EU states, there will be a balance.

[Maximus]

The settlers, they may predominately help the TC local economy and then the greater Cypriot economy. The TCs can deal with them, in their 'zone' which should be less approximately, 20% of the total territory. This does not mean the Republic has to give them citizenship, they can apply for a working visa, until (IF EVER) Turkey joins the EU, then everything changes.

If they all stay, they will be packed in like a tin of sardines up their.

Maximus I hold a different view. I disagree with reunification based on two zones. I believe in one Cyprus where all Cypriots live work and socialise together in a harmonious manner. To this end I believe that any agreement reached and settlers stay they should be fully fledged in the the Cypriot society. They should undergo same immigration steps and procedures as any other. The reason for this is that settlers have now been in Cyprus for over 3 decades. Some have married into TC families and the family is a strong supportive unit and people should be allowed to remain together. To this end it is foolish from the GC perspective to say all settlers out.

]I think just like they can contribute to TC economy they will be able to do so in the Republic as well. Upon reunification and with them having citizenship some will naturally move to other EU states, there will be a balance.

me too, two zones is a compromise on behalf of the GC's

so they get priority (the TCs can decide) if married to a TC and they should be entitled to the European legislature on the matter of citizenship.

With regards to Turks contributing to the whole Cypriot economy, I don't see why they should get citizenship to do that, they can do that without the citizenship. They can apply for a visa like every other non European National. The requirements of Cypriot registered business's and corporations will be the determinant of that.

[humanist]

Maximus

me too, two zones is a compromise on behalf of the GC's

so they get priority (the TCs can decide) if married to a TC and they should be entitled to the European legislature on the matter of citizenship.

With regards to Turks contributing to the whole Cypriot economy, I don't see why they should get citizenship to do that, they can do that without the citizenship. They can apply for a visa like every other non European National. The requirements of Cypriot registered business's and corporations will be the determinant of that.

I agree with the above although two zones is a compromise on behalf of all Cypriots Greek and Turkish speakers alike not to mention Maronites, Latins and other minority groups.


Can see your point around citizenship however I think for some who have been there for 33 years or so appreciation for their contributions, equality and equity I recommend citizenship.

Anyways, seeing the strong influence that germany has taken around EU matters including the Greek issue. I am confident given that the EU acquis states that the EU Recognises the whole Island of cyprus to be an EU State, but with authority extending to the free area where the legitimate RoC government resides. I somehow cannot help but think that Cyprus will eventually after 2015 (when the undesea resources are brought to the surface) will be Reunified in it entirity