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[Piratis]

this is for you piratis...and world wide view of greece...

How did it get to this? It is ethos gone bad. What does it say about a culture when a majority of the population approves of negating a bailout contract inked barely three months ago….A culture that wants to continually nurse off the European breast but refuses to amend profligate habits….A gimmee something for nothing culture….A culture where tax avoidance is the national pastime…..A culture that won’t reform work laws to allow mobility of labor. The oxymoron here is that if workers could be fired then the fear is unemployment would go up. Well, guess what, if a business can’t fire then it won’t hire because hiring becomes akin to having a dependent child for life that never leaves his bedroom. Greece is a country with a bloated public sector, an inefficient labor force, a people stilted by a bureaucratic system that over generations has snuffed out creativity and entrepreneurial spirit. So to my way of thinking, for the Greek people, it is irrelevant whether they leave or stay or come or go. Greece has degenerated into a rotted, decayed, and sclerotic wasteland. True redesign of attitude, value systems and hence society is their only hope…a new ethos. Can it happen……Maybe but statistically unlikely.

more here ---- http://www.forbes.com/sites/richardfinger/2012/05/29/greek-tragedy-how-far-they-have-fallen/

greeks have become cheaters, liars, and now beggars...yes piratis do not abandon all these fine traits but what is amazing is you support them...

lets get something straight here cyprus was never greek...it was a brutal assimillation...they all are...

Cyprus is Greek and nothing that you say or do will ever change it. Get over it.

[Piratis]

The Turks outnumber Greeks 7 to 1 which is the only reason that our task is dificult. Nothing to do with any "cojones". If "cojones" was the only thing that mattered, and you claim that you have "cojones" and that you are Cypriot, then why don't you and your "cojones" come to liberate Cyprus and you instead run to Australia?

nothing but excuses...the jews bonked the turks...you see they have cojones...not mentioning the ratio is a lot higher...

nothing to do with me piratis...we are talking about the greeks, try and stay focus here...

The Jews have the Americans backing them and no Turks in Israel to assist Turkey.

[boomerang]

this is for you piratis...and world wide view of greece...

How did it get to this? It is ethos gone bad. What does it say about a culture when a majority of the population approves of negating a bailout contract inked barely three months ago….A culture that wants to continually nurse off the European breast but refuses to amend profligate habits….A gimmee something for nothing culture….A culture where tax avoidance is the national pastime…..A culture that won’t reform work laws to allow mobility of labor. The oxymoron here is that if workers could be fired then the fear is unemployment would go up. Well, guess what, if a business can’t fire then it won’t hire because hiring becomes akin to having a dependent child for life that never leaves his bedroom. Greece is a country with a bloated public sector, an inefficient labor force, a people stilted by a bureaucratic system that over generations has snuffed out creativity and entrepreneurial spirit. So to my way of thinking, for the Greek people, it is irrelevant whether they leave or stay or come or go. Greece has degenerated into a rotted, decayed, and sclerotic wasteland. True redesign of attitude, value systems and hence society is their only hope…a new ethos. Can it happen……Maybe but statistically unlikely.

more here ---- http://www.forbes.com/sites/richardfinger/2012/05/29/greek-tragedy-how-far-they-have-fallen/

greeks have become cheaters, liars, and now beggars...yes piratis do not abandon all these fine traits but what is amazing is you support them...

lets get something straight here cyprus was never greek...it was a brutal assimillation...they all are...

Cyprus is Greek and nothing that you say or do will ever change it. Get over it.

get over what exactly piratis...for not wanting to be a cheat, a liars, a deceiver, a user, a thief, a scammer, a pussy, a moron and best of all not incompetend to the max...your choice to be all that, but not me...

they raped the cyprus banks and destroyed her economy...some motherland huh?...

[boomerang]

The Turks outnumber Greeks 7 to 1 which is the only reason that our task is dificult. Nothing to do with any "cojones". If "cojones" was the only thing that mattered, and you claim that you have "cojones" and that you are Cypriot, then why don't you and your "cojones" come to liberate Cyprus and you instead run to Australia?

nothing but excuses...the jews bonked the turks...you see they have cojones...not mentioning the ratio is a lot higher...

nothing to do with me piratis...we are talking about the greeks, try and stay focus here...

The Jews have the Americans backing them and no Turks in Israel to assist Turkey.

it sounds pussy talk to me piratis...let me remind you imia is stil pending....why doesn't greece extend to 12 miles and claim her territory...pussy nation that's what we have here...

[Bananiot]

They are also far more competence and common sense than us "Greeks" and on top, they can analyse the geostrategical-economic parameters and extend their arms only as far as it can reach and no further.

The Jews, that is, Piratis.

[barouti]

Time to get past it Piratis and move because this island has never been Greek.

That is exactly what an enemy of Cyprus such as you would say, so I am not surpriced. You have been trying to dehelenize Cyprus for centuries by means of genocides and ethnic cleansing so I hope you have realized than no foreign invader can manage to force us to change our ethnic identity.

When in the history of Cyprus was it a Greek island? give dates and details from reliable sources.

Ha ha ha...when I first visited this forum a few years back my first posts were in thread which you participated in with your dribble. As I can see you're still in denial. You seem to rant away making accusations and challenges as if you've never been provided with reliable sources. Reality is cold for some. To quote George Constanza, “It is not a lie if you believe it to be true". You were the George Constanza of this forum when I first posted and I can still see you remain so. So once more, some reliable sources for you to conventiantly forget when you rant on in another thread "Cyprus was never Greek blah-blah-blah...there are no reliable sources blah-blah-blah...":

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Reliable source and dates no.1 Britannica Encyclopedia



Reliable source and dates no.2 Penguin Historical Atlas of Ancient Greece, Robert Morkot





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Reliable source and dates no.3 Cambridge Illustrated History of Ancient Greece, Paul Cartledge 1998



Reliable source and dates no.4


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Reliable source and dates no.5 The Last Byzantine Renaissance, Runciman



So in summary the reliable sources I can provide as follow:

Britannica Encyclopaedia
Penguin Historical Atlas of Ancient Greece
Cambridge Illustrated History of Ancient Greece
A Dictionary of the Ancient Greek World
The Last Byzantine Renaissane, Runciman

And what can you provide to counter the above. Um, let me guess, as you read this you're scrambling with a google search but the best you can come up with is garble from Zaman, greekmurders.com and a few of Fyrom propaganda sites and other discredibe sources.

You are a bastardized people over and over because so many times has Cyprus been won and lost

Ha ha, bitterness will make you an unhappy Turck. It will especially make you toss and turn in your sleep and you wake up more bitter. Turcos are the last people to accuse others of being bastardized. But if you have slanty eyes then you most certainly yell for the whole wide world to hear how happy that you a Turkoman and you can stop being bitter.

[barouti]

But some native Cypriots also claim to be Turkish and indeed the DNA suggests common Ancestry which probabaly does not involve descent from what is now Greece but probably from what is now Turkey whereby the majority of Cypriots are probabaly mostly descended from Anatolian settlers, albeit probabaly from about 5000 years back which is long before anything that we could recognise as either Greek or Turkish in any way shape or form existed, plus a few genes from the various invaders and passing merchants since then.

Blimey, a pommie. I say old boy you seem to have no idea that Her Majesty's former colony was colonized by Greeks back in the days of Yor. Your fine institutions, such as Cambridge and Oxford agree with me. Even the Lightfoots of the former agree with me. No wonder them Public School highbrows think they're better than you limeys. Posts like this proves it. So tally-ho, gov, and find yourself a right royal British pub in the Isle of Aphrodite that will serve you warm beer.

[barouti]

In the UK, I too have exaclty the same problem with people thinking Cyprus is part of Greece and have to spend ages explaining to them that Cyprus is an idependent country.

I think it happened when the RoC started using the Euro and with all the flags of Greece dotted all over the place some visitors put two and two together and got five thinking it's the same country.

LOL, I can see you graduated from the Orwellian School of Maths ie 2+2=5. That's it, it's the Euro that makes sensible people think they Cyprus is a Greek island, not the 3400 years of Greek presence, common language, identity or that Greek-Cypriots are and consider themselves Greeks bar a comedical minority. There is a reason why the indegenous majority is described as Greek-Cypriot. I'm sure you will miss that and come up with some theory involving the Illuminati and European federalization.

It might change if Greece has to revert to the drachma

You think so. So using this ingenious argument, when Greece had the drachma and Cyprus the lira the rest of the world considered us two different species. So it's due to the financial world that Cyprus is considered a Greek island. Should we therefore blame the Jews for this?

Looking at your avatar, I'm sure when you walk up and down London telling everyone that Cypriots were never Greek before the Euro, when they give you that same derisive look you think to yourself, "man, they don't seem to understand so I should explain it more articulating eg it's the Euro that has caused all the confusion you see..." But what they're really thinking is, "does this tosser actually think I give a rat's arse"

btw Me Ed allow me to make your acquaitance: Me Barouti, You Ed. We friends now. Yes.

[barouti]

how can cyprus and us cypriots isolate ourselves from this reziliki...

You can't. You can choose your friends but you can't choose your family.

[barouti]

I'd have thought natives of Cyprus were CYPRIOTS by definition.

And the natives of the Falklands, Flaklanders by definition?

Of course not, they're British as are the Gibraltans and the Ulstermen of British-occupied Northern Ireland and therefore they shall remain "British forever and forever and forever". And that's because they're British. But when it comes to to Cyprus, the British in this forum think Pot calling the Kettle black is an impartial argument. Well, not all of them. Me Ed for example has figured it all out, the Kyproi consider themselves Greek because of the Euro.