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[Viewpoint]

...whatever vp, it's just your conjecture.

i won't tell you what "Turks" or Turks want, you quit telling me what "Greeks" or Greeks want, and we discuss what we (you and me) want; how's that?

Havent we been doing that anyway? you appear confused and lost not really understanding the deep rooted fears and prejudices both sides carry and need to be addressed. Nothing is as it is in the text books we need a 2 state solution where each side can rule themselves and then a federal government that can work for the good of the country as a whole without prejudice and discrimination.

[CBBB]

...whatever vp, it's just your conjecture.

i won't tell you what "Turks" or Turks want, you quit telling me what "Greeks" or Greeks want, and we discuss what we (you and me) want; how's that?

Havent we been doing that anyway? you appear confused and lost not really understanding the deep rooted fears and prejudices both sides carry and need to be addressed. Nothing is as it is in the text books we need a 2 state solution where each side can rule themselves and then a federal government that can work for the good of the country as a whole without prejudice and discrimination.

There is a major technical problem with what you propose. With three Governments on this small island we would need more civil servants than the total population!

[Lordo]

Lets face it, any excuse to remove power from the TCs. Lets face it, if you can run London with a mayor you can run Cyprus with 2 mayors, one each. Job done. Next.

[repulsewarrior]

There is a major technical problem with what you propose. With three Governments on this small island we would need more civil servants than the total population!

...not true CBBB, and seriously have you looked at what i suggest, even if in Cyprus the governance is large, it provides the service that its citizens want; most importantly as taxpayers are closer to their money.

don't forget that the EU is at its advent, in a few short decades, it is likely that social-economic conditions for our neighbours in the Middle East and Africa will change as well. the population of Cyprus, demographically speaking as well as it size will change significantly.

[repulsewarrior]

...whatever vp, it's just your conjecture.

i won't tell you what "Turks" or Turks want, you quit telling me what "Greeks" or Greeks want, and we discuss what we (you and me) want; how's that?

Havent we been doing that anyway? you appear confused and lost not really understanding the deep rooted fears and prejudices both sides carry and need to be addressed. Nothing is as it is in the text books we need a 2 state solution where each side can rule themselves and then a federal government that can work for the good of the country as a whole without prejudice and discrimination.

dude, you are repeating what i propose...

...and yet you refuse to recognise that we seek the same Freedom for Cyprus, and Freedom for Cypriots too.

I put my Humanity first, here is the difference, you put "Turkish" interests ahead of any other consideration.

...not confused and lost vp, very focused and principaled, i don't let fear overcome my desire to end the Ignorance which we are subject to; unlike your position which resists the changes which end this exploitation by "Greeks", and "Turks".

[Viewpoint]

...whatever vp, it's just your conjecture.

i won't tell you what "Turks" or Turks want, you quit telling me what "Greeks" or Greeks want, and we discuss what we (you and me) want; how's that?

Havent we been doing that anyway? you appear confused and lost not really understanding the deep rooted fears and prejudices both sides carry and need to be addressed. Nothing is as it is in the text books we need a 2 state solution where each side can rule themselves and then a federal government that can work for the good of the country as a whole without prejudice and discrimination.

dude, you are repeating what i propose...

...and yet you refuse to recognise that we seek the same Freedom for Cyprus, and Freedom for Cypriots too.

I put my Humanity first, here is the difference, you put "Turkish" interests ahead of any other consideration.

...not confused and lost vp, very focused and principaled, i don't let fear overcome my desire to end the Ignorance which we are subject to; unlike your position which resists the changes which end this exploitation by "Greeks", and "Turks".

Then we agree a 2 state solution with guaranteed representation at the the federal level.....no cantons or enclaves.

[repulsewarrior]

...no dear friend, first and foremost, the recognition of the displaced (and the appalling denial of the missing and murdered), both Turkish and Greek, from '63 and '74, Justice seen, the return as they left, for some at least, as Communities.

...Turkish and Greek service island-wide, serving Citizens as Cypriots, as well as Persons.

There is one State, although there can be many seperate Nations having their self-representation to effect their daily lives; this is Bicommunal.

There is one State, and many components that make up the Territorial Jurisdictions of National Assemblies (the Constituencies); this is Bizonal.

Two states is not Bicommunal, nor Bizonal: Cyprus is not free, nor are Cypriots, it suits the "Greeks" and the "Turks", not Cypriots who are Greek and Turkish.

...but we do agree at least, that three governing bodies (or more) must exist.

[Viewpoint]

...no dear friend, first and foremost, the recognition of the displaced (and the appalling denial of the missing and murdered), both Turkish and Greek, from '63 and '74, Justice seen, the return as they left, for some at least, as Communities.

...Turkish and Greek service island-wide, serving Citizens as Cypriots, as well as Persons.

There is one State, although there can be many seperate Nations having their self-representation to effect their daily lives; this is Bicommunal.

There is one State, and many components that make up the Territorial Jurisdictions of National Assemblies (the Constituencies); this is Bizonal.

Two states is not Bicommunal, nor Bizonal: Cyprus is not free, nor are Cypriots, it suits the "Greeks" and the "Turks", not Cypriots who are Greek and Turkish.

...but we do agree at least, that three governing bodies (or more) must exist.

You have reneged yet again so once again your proposals have been rejected.

[repulsewarrior]

not so fast vp, respect for those who suffered the most...

...if that is the only problem between us, think about it.

[Hermes]

Turkish Cypriot Liberation Day

You mean the Turks have finally liberated northern Cyprus of all Turkish Cypriots?