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Re: Turkish Cypriot Liberation Day

Postby ZoC » Sat Jul 21, 2012 5:38 pm

Cap wrote:Only clicked on this thread to see what ZoC wrote.


aw shucks. :oops: :wink:
you're a f*cking good egg, cap. the soul of cyprus resonates thru people like u.
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Re: Turkish Cypriot Liberation Day

Postby Me Ed » Sat Jul 21, 2012 6:35 pm

supporttheunderdog wrote:
Me Ed wrote:The irony of "Peace and Freedom day" is that most TCs have had to flee the occupied areas to find any peace and freedom.
and mostly living in Norf Lundun in Peace and Freedom along side Greek Cypriots, many of whom (or the parents of whom) were forced to flee by the so-called peaceful forces of the TAF.

That is so true you couldn't make it up, GC-TC interaction in north London is common.
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Re: Turkish Cypriot Liberation Day

Postby supporttheunderdog » Sat Jul 21, 2012 7:48 pm

ZoC wrote:
Cap wrote:Only clicked on this thread to see what ZoC wrote.


aw shucks. :oops: :wink:
you're a f*cking good egg, cap. the soul of cyprus resonates thru people like u.


yes its good to see ZoC comment - hope ZoC sticks around.
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Re: Turkish Cypriot Liberation Day

Postby ZoC » Sat Jul 21, 2012 8:15 pm

supporttheunderdog wrote:
ZoC wrote:
Cap wrote:Only clicked on this thread to see what ZoC wrote.


aw shucks. :oops: :wink:
you're a f*cking good egg, cap. the soul of cyprus resonates thru people like u.


yes its good to see ZoC comment - hope ZoC sticks around.


cheers, stud - the best of brits. see how it goes. :wink:
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Re: Turkish Cypriot Liberation Day

Postby kimon07 » Sun Jul 22, 2012 3:30 am

Lordo wrote:We must be mature about this.

What would have happened if all Greek Cypriots did not join the war and just let the Junta officers and EOKA fight the Turks. I am also including the soldiers of the GC National Guard?
..........

So you see if the Greek Cypriots did not shoot at the Turks perhaps the outcome would have been different.

We shall never know.


Lordo! I said it before, I will say it again. It is not Geek tradition to welcome the enemy with flowers ( as some grass hoppers suggest) even if and when we are in the middle of a civil war. Greek tradition is to fight even when we know we are outnumbered and outgunned. Defiant of the outcome and of the consequences. Its a matter of honour, you see! Ancient tradition. Remember, not long time ago:
1940 Italian invasion in Greece.
1941 German invasion
1941-1944 Resistance against the Nazis, the Fascists and the Bulgarians.
1944-1949 war against communism.
1955-1959 war (in Cyprus) against colonialism (the last of the empires).
1974 Resistance against the Turkish invasion.
2004 No to the Annan Plan.
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Re: Turkish Cypriot Liberation Day

Postby PC Bubble » Sun Jul 22, 2012 4:57 am

Let's make it plain again.

You are NOT Greeks.

Greeks have NEVER ruled Cyprus.
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Re: Turkish Cypriot Liberation Day

Postby supporttheunderdog » Sun Jul 22, 2012 7:38 am

PC Bubble wrote:Let's make it plain again.

You are NOT Greeks.

Greeks have NEVER ruled Cyprus.


That depends on one's definition of Greece and Greek and whether or not it is racial concept (i.e.Genos) or More cultural (i.e. Ethnos) - on the genos side just as the Anglo Saxon genos has been overstated for Great Britain, so I think the Genos element hs been overstated for Cyprus.

And yes while in times past (particularly under the Romans and their eastern Roman Sucessors) Cyprus formed a part of an empire which ruled the area of what is now the modern state of Greece, Cyprus has never been a part of the modern πολιτική οντότητα that is now the Hellenic republic. .

Unfortunately there are a few here who like the idea that we should be run by remote governments between 532 km / 330 miles and 916 km / 569 miles aaway, rather than locally. That has been the Curse of the Island and why the indigeonous Kibrilisi now live as a diminshing minority even within the occupied areas where the puppet occupation regime is increasingly less caring of the indigeonous Kibrilisi but the puppets drops their pants and bend over to enable the occupiers to satisfy the post 74 non Cypriot settlers. .
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Re: Turkish Cypriot Liberation Day

Postby kimon07 » Sun Jul 22, 2012 10:20 am

PC Bubble wrote:Let's make it plain again.

You are NOT Greeks.

Greeks have NEVER ruled Cyprus.


Any pictures of the festivities Lordo? Showing cheering crowds will be much appreciated.

Thanks in advance.
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Re: Turkish Cypriot Liberation Day

Postby tsukoui » Sun Jul 22, 2012 10:54 am

supporttheunderdog wrote:That depends on one's definition of Greece and Greek and whether or not it is racial concept (i.e.Genos) or More cultural (i.e. Ethnos) - on the genos side just as the Anglo Saxon genos has been overstated for Great Britain, so I think the Genos element hs been overstated for Cyprus.


That is an interesting distinction, "genos" and "ethnos"... Greek is such a wonderful language... but I'm not sure... "race" is a hodgepodge of geography, culture and arbitrary genetics... it is a construct pure and simple... to conflate "race" with genetics, as I think the use of the word "genos" suggests, is wrong... there is more genetic diversity within so called "races" then there is between them... i.e. two people of different "races" could have more genes in common than two people of the same "race"... "race" simply picks out a few genes it finds important... it is like defining a "race" of tall people... the only difference is that "tall" people are roughly evenly spread geographically... I like what you're trying to do... and "genos" and "ethnos" are interesting distinctions... but I'm not sure I would translate "racial concept" as "genos"... maybe... but I think it would be better to stop using the term "race" altogether...
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Re: Turkish Cypriot Liberation Day

Postby kimon07 » Sun Jul 22, 2012 11:28 am

tsukoui wrote:That is an interesting distinction, "genos" and "ethnos"... Greek is such a wonderful language...


Genos = "omaimon"
Ethnos = "omaimon, omoglosson, omothreskon and omotropon" (same blood, same lanquage, same religion, same customs) put togehter.

But have these anything to do with this thread? I simply asked for a few bloody pictures of the festivities. Did the F16s get back home safely avoiding Syrian air space? Lordo? VP?
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