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[Viewpoint]

What you offer is not what we want....minority rights in a GC state is a no starter for us, the only way we would ever consider union is via an AP style plane where there is a BBF with political equality of the 2 states which the UN supports but you continue to refuse reject and turn your backs on...we will never be just another minority we are equal partners in Cyprus so its about time you treated us as such.

But you already admitted that you are a minority!

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Do you know the difference between minority rights and community rights? read your own constitution and weep.

Yes. Minorities like you, are entitled to all the rights and protections the international law, the EU law and the democratic Constitutions grant them.
If minorities are organized into individual and distinct Ethnic/ Religious/other Communities, depending on the constitutional system of various democratic countries, may additionally be granted self-administration/internal self governance, IF the administrative structure of the particular country/state permits it. PERIOD.

In your case, under a new RoC constitution, you will certainly be granted internal self governance in certain geographic areas, additionally to all your minority rights.

A last a break through...what the UN propose is good enough for us a BBF with political equality of the states...but its the GCs who oppose this and are trying as you can see from this forum to force purely minority rights upon its partner.

[CBBB]

What you offer is not what we want....minority rights in a GC state is a no starter for us, the only way we would ever consider union is via an AP style plane where there is a BBF with political equality of the 2 states which the UN supports but you continue to refuse reject and turn your backs on...we will never be just another minority we are equal partners in Cyprus so its about time you treated us as such.

But you already admitted that you are a minority!

cyprus38140-10.html#p720348

Do you know the difference between minority rights and community rights? read your own constitution and weep.

Yes. Minorities like you, are entitled to all the rights and protections the international law, the EU law and the democratic Constitutions grant them.
If minorities are organized into individual and distinct Ethnic/ Religious/other Communities, depending on the constitutional system of various democratic countries, may additionally be granted self-administration/internal self governance, IF the administrative structure of the particular country/state permits it. PERIOD.

In your case, under a new RoC constitution, you will certainly be granted internal self governance in certain geographic areas, additionally to all your minority rights.

A last a break through...what the UN propose is good enough for us a BBF with political equality of the states...but its the GCs who oppose this and are trying as you can see from this forum to force purely minority rights upon its partner.

You and your Turkish friends implement a few UN resolutions, then we might respect the UN's views a bit more.

[Viewpoint]

Nothing is agreed until everything is agreed is the demand of your own leader.

[kimon07]

Nothing is agreed until everything is agreed is the demand of your own leader.

UN resolutions are not subject of agreements or negotiations. They are just to be implemented. Actually Cyprus has the right to stop negotiating until all UN resolutions are implemented first. Besides. The only thing to be discussed and agreed is the constitutional issue. All other issues of the CP (i.e. Turkey) are already resolved by the UN (invasion/occupation/illegal settlers etc).

[kimon07]

What you offer is not what we want....minority rights in a GC state is a no starter for us, the only way we would ever consider union is via an AP style plane where there is a BBF with political equality of the 2 states which the UN supports but you continue to refuse reject and turn your backs on...we will never be just another minority we are equal partners in Cyprus so its about time you treated us as such.

But you already admitted that you are a minority!

cyprus38140-10.html#p720348

Do you know the difference between minority rights and community rights? read your own constitution and weep.

Yes. Minorities like you, are entitled to all the rights and protections the international law, the EU law and the democratic Constitutions grant them.
If minorities are organized into individual and distinct Ethnic/ Religious/other Communities, depending on the constitutional system of various democratic countries, may additionally be granted self-administration/internal self governance, IF the administrative structure of the particular country/state permits it. PERIOD.

In your case, under a new RoC constitution, you will certainly be granted internal self governance in certain geographic areas, additionally to all your minority rights.

A last a break through...what the UN propose is good enough for us a BBF with political equality of the states...but its the GCs who oppose this and are trying as you can see from this forum to force purely minority rights upon its partner.

Absolutely. Purely minority rights with communal (internal) self governance. Forget the BBF the way you dream of it (i.e., two sovereign states). You had your chance in December 2002 (Annan Plan 2) and you blew it. And we are grateful to you for that.

[Viewpoint]

Nothing is agreed until everything is agreed is the demand of your own leader.

UN resolutions are not subject of agreements or negotiations. They are just to be implemented. Actually Cyprus has the right to stop negotiating until all UN resolutions are implemented first. Besides. The only thing to be discussed and agreed is the constitutional issue. All other issues of the CP (i.e. Turkey) are already resolved by the UN (invasion/occupation/illegal settlers etc).

Youll have a bloody long wait..do you wanna try your luck?

[CBBB]

Nothing is agreed until everything is agreed is the demand of your own leader.

UN resolutions are not subject of agreements or negotiations. They are just to be implemented. Actually Cyprus has the right to stop negotiating until all UN resolutions are implemented first. Besides. The only thing to be discussed and agreed is the constitutional issue. All other issues of the CP (i.e. Turkey) are already resolved by the UN (invasion/occupation/illegal settlers etc).

Youll have a bloody long wait..do you wanna try your luck?

..and you complain about other people not meeting their commitments?

[Viewpoint]

Hello when did we commit to what you want? we havent agreed anything.

[bill cobbett]

Hello when did we commit to what you want? we havent agreed anything.

Oh yes you have committed and agreed.... agreed to a settlement based on all those nice little UN Resolutions... oh!... you must have forgotten the Illegal Regime's line.

[Viewpoint]

Hello when did we commit to what you want? we havent agreed anything.

Oh yes you have committed and agreed.... agreed to a settlement based on all those nice little UN Resolutions... oh!... you must have forgotten the Illegal Regime's line.

Can you produce the document.