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Re: Turkish Cypriot Liberation Day

Postby CBBB » Thu Jun 21, 2012 11:15 am

Viewpoint wrote:
kimon07 wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:Meed just answer yes or no;

Does your constitution a internationally binding agreement have rights of the Turkish Cypriot Community? (eg Veto right).


After Cyprus entered the EU such undemocratic "constitutional" terms are not valid any more. But since you seem to be so fond of the provisions of that constitution please tell me. Are you prepared to abide by all of them? Including the those defining one sovereignty. And that TCs are subjects and citizens of the RoC?
No? Well. In that case, lets start looking in what the international law and the European Law stipulates about minorities. And draw a new constitution which will be respecting those principles. Shall we?


Your doing what every GCs has been trying to do over history, sweep away our rights...you signed an agreement which gives us partnershi rights you cannot just in a few words throw this in the bin...and offer minority rights it dont work that way. Thats why the world supports the UN in their mission to bring about a BBF with political equality of the 2 states, this is a far cry from your offer and what you know we will never accept. Have you gotten your head around the fact that we are partners in Cyprus and not just a some minority you can tell to shut up and accept your fate.


You threw away the constitution when you declared independence, finished!
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Re: Turkish Cypriot Liberation Day

Postby B25 » Thu Jun 21, 2012 11:21 am

CBBB wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
kimon07 wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:Meed just answer yes or no;

Does your constitution a internationally binding agreement have rights of the Turkish Cypriot Community? (eg Veto right).


After Cyprus entered the EU such undemocratic "constitutional" terms are not valid any more. But since you seem to be so fond of the provisions of that constitution please tell me. Are you prepared to abide by all of them? Including the those defining one sovereignty. And that TCs are subjects and citizens of the RoC?
No? Well. In that case, lets start looking in what the international law and the European Law stipulates about minorities. And draw a new constitution which will be respecting those principles. Shall we?


Your doing what every GCs has been trying to do over history, sweep away our rights...you signed an agreement which gives us partnershi rights you cannot just in a few words throw this in the bin...and offer minority rights it dont work that way. Thats why the world supports the UN in their mission to bring about a BBF with political equality of the 2 states, this is a far cry from your offer and what you know we will never accept. Have you gotten your head around the fact that we are partners in Cyprus and not just a some minority you can tell to shut up and accept your fate.


You threw away the constitution when you declared independence, finished!


Correction, they threw away the constitution when they invaded and didn't leave in '74. The want their cake and want to eat it. Can you believe the audacity of these F people. They rob you blind and then complain you didn't have enough to steal and then want more.

You want to be partners, sure 12% say in anything end of. The expect a 50% share as a 12% minority you are off your heads, seriously.

Hade assirktir pezevenki.
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Re: Turkish Cypriot Liberation Day

Postby Maximus » Thu Jun 21, 2012 11:26 am

Turkey should give the Kurds the same rights in Turkey, if not, then Turkey can offer to give the TC's the same rights in Turkey and repatriate them.

we should start another thread "Kurdish Turkish Liberation day"
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Re: Turkish Cypriot Liberation Day

Postby kimon07 » Thu Jun 21, 2012 12:38 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
kimon07 wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:Meed just answer yes or no;

Does your constitution a internationally binding agreement have rights of the Turkish Cypriot Community? (eg Veto right).


After Cyprus entered the EU such undemocratic "constitutional" terms are not valid any more. But since you seem to be so fond of the provisions of that constitution please tell me. Are you prepared to abide by all of them? Including the those defining one sovereignty. And that TCs are subjects and citizens of the RoC?
No? Well. In that case, lets start looking in what the international law and the European Law stipulates about minorities. And draw a new constitution which will be respecting those principles. Shall we?


Your doing what every GCs has been trying to do over history, sweep away our rights...you signed an agreement which gives us partnershi rights you cannot just in a few words throw this in the bin...and offer minority rights it dont work that way. Thats why the world supports the UN in their mission to bring about a BBF with political equality of the 2 states, this is a far cry from your offer and what you know we will never accept. Have you gotten your head around the fact that we are partners in Cyprus and not just a some minority you can tell to shut up and accept your fate.


You denounced the Agreement by walking out from it and by withdfrawing you recognition from the RoC. Now we start fresh. EU terms. Period.
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Re: Turkish Cypriot Liberation Day

Postby Viewpoint » Thu Jun 21, 2012 2:52 pm

kimon07 wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
kimon07 wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:Meed just answer yes or no;

Does your constitution a internationally binding agreement have rights of the Turkish Cypriot Community? (eg Veto right).


After Cyprus entered the EU such undemocratic "constitutional" terms are not valid any more. But since you seem to be so fond of the provisions of that constitution please tell me. Are you prepared to abide by all of them? Including the those defining one sovereignty. And that TCs are subjects and citizens of the RoC?
No? Well. In that case, lets start looking in what the international law and the European Law stipulates about minorities. And draw a new constitution which will be respecting those principles. Shall we?


Your doing what every GCs has been trying to do over history, sweep away our rights...you signed an agreement which gives us partnershi rights you cannot just in a few words throw this in the bin...and offer minority rights it dont work that way. Thats why the world supports the UN in their mission to bring about a BBF with political equality of the 2 states, this is a far cry from your offer and what you know we will never accept. Have you gotten your head around the fact that we are partners in Cyprus and not just a some minority you can tell to shut up and accept your fate.


You denounced the Agreement by walking out from it and by withdfrawing you recognition from the RoC. Now we start fresh. EU terms. Period.


International agreements do not dissapear becuase you say so, you are bound by them until we agree to changes, puh walking out was told to you by your teachers more like at gunpoint.
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Re: Turkish Cypriot Liberation Day

Postby Hermes » Thu Jun 21, 2012 3:14 pm

Viewpoint wrote:International agreements do not dissapear becuase you say so, you are bound by them until we agree to changes, puh walking out was told to you by your teachers more like at gunpoint.

Cyprus is now a member of the EU and bound by its laws and rules. International agreements do not disappear because you say so.
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Re: Turkish Cypriot Liberation Day

Postby Viewpoint » Thu Jun 21, 2012 3:18 pm

Hermes wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:International agreements do not dissapear becuase you say so, you are bound by them until we agree to changes, puh walking out was told to you by your teachers more like at gunpoint.

Cyprus is now a member of the EU and bound by its laws and rules. International agreements do not disappear because you say so.


But those agreements do not have our signature ours has yours.
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Re: Turkish Cypriot Liberation Day

Postby Hermes » Thu Jun 21, 2012 3:42 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
Hermes wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:International agreements do not dissapear becuase you say so, you are bound by them until we agree to changes, puh walking out was told to you by your teachers more like at gunpoint.

Cyprus is now a member of the EU and bound by its laws and rules. International agreements do not disappear because you say so.


But those agreements do not have our signature ours has yours.


They have the signature of the RoC - the legitimate government of the whole island. The occupied areas are de facto EU territory - you cannot escape this fact.
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Re: Turkish Cypriot Liberation Day

Postby Viewpoint » Thu Jun 21, 2012 3:47 pm

Hermes wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Hermes wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:International agreements do not dissapear becuase you say so, you are bound by them until we agree to changes, puh walking out was told to you by your teachers more like at gunpoint.

Cyprus is now a member of the EU and bound by its laws and rules. International agreements do not disappear because you say so.


But those agreements do not have our signature ours has yours.


They have the signature of the RoC - the legitimate government of the whole island. The occupied areas are de facto EU territory - you cannot escape this fact.


And the owners of the "RoC" are? under what agreements????
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Re: Turkish Cypriot Liberation Day

Postby Hermes » Thu Jun 21, 2012 4:13 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
Hermes wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Hermes wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:International agreements do not dissapear becuase you say so, you are bound by them until we agree to changes, puh walking out was told to you by your teachers more like at gunpoint.

Cyprus is now a member of the EU and bound by its laws and rules. International agreements do not disappear because you say so.


But those agreements do not have our signature ours has yours.


They have the signature of the RoC - the legitimate government of the whole island. The occupied areas are de facto EU territory - you cannot escape this fact.


And the owners of the "RoC" are?

Its people as represented by the legitimate internationally recognised government of the island.
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