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[bill cobbett]

31 days left.

What an unfortunate number.

I have the flags at the ready and the old marching music on CD.

Anyone else feel that putting forward as a celebration the deaths of thousands of CYs is the act of a DISGUSTING HUMAN BEING!!!

A view makes decent people want to VOMIT!!!

[Maximus]

Yes bill, there are some vile and disgusting human beings, even calling them human beings is being generous.

The lieks of some who post here are only looking to take, they have nothing to give in return, it is evident even in the mode of their communication.

not from this planet at all and they will rot in hell.

[kurupetos]

31 days left.

What an unfortunate number.

I have the flags at the ready and the old marching music on CD.

At least you admit you are a criminal and a partitionist. When the time comes we will have no reservations...

[Lordo]

What you boys have to understand is that Sampson was not planning a tea party for the Turkish Cypriots. He boasted that he had 98% of Turkish Cypriot lands since 1963 in Cyprus after the coup and if Greece gave him a hand, he would have driven all the Turks into the sea.
Do you see? I see.

Now I am sure you are perfectly aware that when Sampson said all the Turks, he did not mean just the Turks. He is referring to your Turkish Cypriot brothers.

Given the choice of being murdered by your fascists and the liberation I know which one I prefer.

You should be grateful that they came along and saved your sorry asses from the likes of Sampson and his supporters. When Ecevit said he hoped they would not fire on them so they can go in and remove the coupists, he meant it. But of course you will never know, because Mehmetcik was being fired upon as he was landing with his parachute.

Partition? Never. One country one people living together, side by side because, that is all that is possible at this point.

Get it?

This is not about celebrating murder of others, it is about celebrating the saving of tens of thousands of lives from both communities.

[Viewpoint]

MeeD thank you for an honesty answer.

Now that we have established that by international law we have community rights which can also be called a partnership you have to respect and request changes that we can accept....under no circumstancies will we relinquish our community rights for rights of a minority in a GC state...this you have to forget so that you can move on and generate alternative ideas such as BBF with politicla equality of the 2 states which you Gcs do not understand nor have you 100% commited to.

VP,

it's time you realised that the concept of community rights, obtained legally or otherwise, has never worked in any part of the world so the challenge for us all to come up with some out-of-the-box thinking rather than waving pieces of paper around.

The bare facts and lessons from history show that minority rights do actually work and are enshrined in EU law.

That's why my solution is for the Cypriotization of Cyprus, because my view is that we should all be first and foremost equal Cypriots irrespective of our ethnicity be that Cypriot, Greek, Turkish, British, Russian, Maronite ...

I think its the GCs that need more persuading than us, you should really start there, they are more Greek than Cypriots....they still believe Cyprus is a Greek island.

Now back to our rights which you confirm do exist as per international agreements which bear your signature, as for waving pieces of paper around you people are far greater experts at that than us.

In order to erase our rights which appears to be your main goal you have to persuade TCs that minority rights are far better than what they have today....ı can tell you my friend you stand absolutely no chance as they would rather continue on the path of Turkification than give into that GC demand. The middle ground is the best option a BBF with political equality of the 2 states where veryone can move and settle freely around the island but administrations remain TC in the north and GC south....or suggest alternatives where the Tcs are allowed to rule themselves in the north.

[Me Ed]

MeeD thank you for an honesty answer.

Now that we have established that by international law we have community rights which can also be called a partnership you have to respect and request changes that we can accept....under no circumstancies will we relinquish our community rights for rights of a minority in a GC state...this you have to forget so that you can move on and generate alternative ideas such as BBF with politicla equality of the 2 states which you Gcs do not understand nor have you 100% commited to.

VP,

it's time you realised that the concept of community rights, obtained legally or otherwise, has never worked in any part of the world so the challenge for us all to come up with some out-of-the-box thinking rather than waving pieces of paper around.

The bare facts and lessons from history show that minority rights do actually work and are enshrined in EU law.

That's why my solution is for the Cypriotization of Cyprus, because my view is that we should all be first and foremost equal Cypriots irrespective of our ethnicity be that Cypriot, Greek, Turkish, British, Russian, Maronite ...

I think its the GCs that need more persuading than us, you should really start there, they are more Greek than Cypriots....they still believe Cyprus is a Greek island.

Now back to our rights which you confirm do exist as per international agreements which bear your signature, as for waving pieces of paper around you people are far greater experts at that than us.

In order to erase our rights which appears to be your main goal you have to persuade TCs that minority rights are far better than what they have today....ı can tell you my friend you stand absolutely no chance as they would rather continue on the path of Turkification than give into that GC demand. The middle ground is the best option a BBF with political equality of the 2 states where veryone can move and settle freely around the island but administrations remain TC in the north and GC south....or suggest alternatives where the Tcs are allowed to rule themselves in the north.

Minority rights are not about erasing peoples rights.

Every Cypriot has the same basic rights irrespective of ethnicity, but minority rights exist to protect any specific rights a particular group has.

I don't understand why you have a problem with this, particularly as most TCs choose to live in other EU countries as a minority, comfortable in the fact that their minority rights are, as in the RoC, protected in EU law.

[bill cobbett]

The SICKO VIEWS AS EXPRESSED BY LORDO AND PCDouble, without any hint of common decency and without reservation on several occasions over the past few weeks are the views of people who are delighted to be able to celebrate the deaths of thousands of CYs by jumping and down on their graves (if they could find where a good many are buried of course)... and that's an opinion bourn out by the disgusting title of this thread.

... and these views become the views of the UGLIEST OF RACIST BIGOTS, the views of THE SUPPORTERS OF ETHNIC CLEANSING when they imply that the lives of the loved ones of the people living in the Free Areas who were murdered in their thousands are justified so that Lordo can prance and stroll around at his leisure and make his Apartheid Demands with the support and backing of the MURDERERS IN THE TURKISH STATE standing in the shadows just behind him.

Some peoples' views really are a disgrace to humanity.

(You are a turning in to an unimaginably great disappointment to many, Lordo)

[barouti]

Minority rights are not about erasing peoples rights.

Every Cypriot has the same basic rights irrespective of ethnicity, but minority rights exist to protect any specific rights a particular group has.

I don't understand why you have a problem with this, particularly as most TCs choose to live in other EU countries as a minority, comfortable in the fact that their minority rights are, as in the RoC, protected in EU law.

"Hello, I'm Mister Ed

A horse is a horse, of course of course,
and no one can talk to a horse of course,
that is of course, unless the horse,
Is the famous Mister Ed! "

Ok, Mr Ed, just like banananiot and Boom-Boom, you obviously post with the aim of gaining applaud from the Turks and in doing so prove yourself to be one of their useful idiots. If you're so much into human rights, why not point out to your turco buddies how they've made 200,000 Cypriots refugees in their own country, and whom they refuse their right to return, uh-ha! Maybe point out to them how during the 80's they destroyed 3,000 Kurdish villages and refuse those refugees to go back, uh-ha! You blabber away, much to the applause of the Turcos, and yet avoid replying to my questions. Why is that? Because you're obssessed with the turcos praising you. It makes you feel really important to what is really a dead-head life that you lead, uh-ha! Why don't you give your two-bits regarding the murders of Isaak and Solomou, uh-ha? You're turco advocate considers them justified? While you tickle his cajones with a feather and demand the removal of the Greek flag in the free Republic, you dont bat an eyelid that they're killing your own fellow countrymen for removing that symbol of occupation, the Turkish flag from your country. Do you? Come on, answer it! If you're so much into minority rights why did you conventiantly remain mute in that thread regarding that Kurd who is facing a quarter-of-a-century in prison for having a lemon in his position, ah-ha?

Oh no, you won't dare bring these up, will you. That's because you're their useful idiot and a hypocrite. You, banananiot and Boom-Boom have brown-colored tongues from licking too much turco butts.

[Viewpoint]

Minority rights are not about erasing peoples rights.

Every Cypriot has the same basic rights irrespective of ethnicity, but minority rights exist to protect any specific rights a particular group has.

I don't understand why you have a problem with this, particularly as most TCs choose to live in other EU countries as a minority, comfortable in the fact that their minority rights are, as in the RoC, protected in EU law.

"Hello, I'm Mister Ed

A horse is a horse, of course of course,
and no one can talk to a horse of course,
that is of course, unless the horse,
Is the famous Mister Ed! "

Ok, Mr Ed, just like banananiot and Boom-Boom, you obviously post with the aim of gaining applaud from the Turks and in doing so prove yourself to be one of their useful idiots. If you're so much into human rights, why not point out to your turco buddies how they've made 200,000 Cypriots refugees in their own country, and whom they refuse their right to return, uh-ha! Maybe point out to them how during the 80's they destroyed 3,000 Kurdish villages and refuse those refugees to go back, uh-ha! You blabber away, much to the applause of the Turcos, and yet avoid replying to my questions. Why is that? Because you're obssessed with the turcos praising you. It makes you feel really important to what is really a dead-head life that you lead, uh-ha! Why don't you give your two-bits regarding the murders of Isaak and Solomou, uh-ha? You're turco advocate considers them justified? While you tickle his cajones with a feather and demand the removal of the Greek flag in the free Republic, you dont bat an eyelid that they're killing your own fellow countrymen for removing that symbol of occupation, the Turkish flag from your country. Do you? Come on, answer it! If you're so much into minority rights why did you conventiantly remain mute in that thread regarding that Kurd who is facing a quarter-of-a-century in prison for having a lemon in his position, ah-ha?

Oh no, you won't dare bring these up, will you. That's because you're their useful idiot and a hypocrite. You, banananiot and Boom-Boom have brown-colored tongues from licking too much turco butts.

Proves my point 100% MeeD...your people are not behind you.

[Viewpoint]

MeeD thank you for an honesty answer.

Now that we have established that by international law we have community rights which can also be called a partnership you have to respect and request changes that we can accept....under no circumstancies will we relinquish our community rights for rights of a minority in a GC state...this you have to forget so that you can move on and generate alternative ideas such as BBF with politicla equality of the 2 states which you Gcs do not understand nor have you 100% commited to.

VP,

it's time you realised that the concept of community rights, obtained legally or otherwise, has never worked in any part of the world so the challenge for us all to come up with some out-of-the-box thinking rather than waving pieces of paper around.

The bare facts and lessons from history show that minority rights do actually work and are enshrined in EU law.

That's why my solution is for the Cypriotization of Cyprus, because my view is that we should all be first and foremost equal Cypriots irrespective of our ethnicity be that Cypriot, Greek, Turkish, British, Russian, Maronite ...

I think its the GCs that need more persuading than us, you should really start there, they are more Greek than Cypriots....they still believe Cyprus is a Greek island.

Now back to our rights which you confirm do exist as per international agreements which bear your signature, as for waving pieces of paper around you people are far greater experts at that than us.

In order to erase our rights which appears to be your main goal you have to persuade TCs that minority rights are far better than what they have today....ı can tell you my friend you stand absolutely no chance as they would rather continue on the path of Turkification than give into that GC demand. The middle ground is the best option a BBF with political equality of the 2 states where veryone can move and settle freely around the island but administrations remain TC in the north and GC south....or suggest alternatives where the Tcs are allowed to rule themselves in the north.

Minority rights are not about erasing peoples rights.

Every Cypriot has the same basic rights irrespective of ethnicity, but minority rights exist to protect any specific rights a particular group has.

I don't understand why you have a problem with this, particularly as most TCs choose to live in other EU countries as a minority, comfortable in the fact that their minority rights are, as in the RoC, protected in EU law.

MeeD you have to understand what you are asking of us, that is to hand over the whole country to the GCs and accept to be at the mercy of the GCs as a minority hoping that they will apply our rights fairly and without discrimination, we cannot do this never noway. As for those TCs who live as a minority abroad they chose to reside where as you want to force me into a situation i do not want. This is my country and I will not be turned into a foreigner in my own land.