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Re: Turkish Cypriot Liberation Day

Postby Maximus » Mon Jun 18, 2012 9:15 am

Lordo wrote:People here forget that Whilst the RoC Government is the recognised legal entity, they will have to hand back all Turkish Cypriot lands back sooner or later. Whilst Turkey has got away with not giving back anything and has no incentive what so ever to do so in the future.

I call upon all Turkish Cypriots to take court action and claim their lands from RoC. Until such times as a court case precedent is set, they will deny the Turkish Cypriots all Human and Democratic rights. Once that is done, they will have no alternative but to hand back all the Turkish Cypriot Lands that they have.


A lot of the comments here belong to trolls or persons with an infantile mentality and should not be worthy of any response at all.

Comments are for entertainment value only and there is no need to give it any form of credibility at all.
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Re: Turkish Cypriot Liberation Day

Postby Me Ed » Mon Jun 18, 2012 10:03 am

Lordo wrote:People here forget that Whilst the RoC Government is the recognised legal entity, they will have to hand back all Turkish Cypriot lands back sooner or later. Whilst Turkey has got away with not giving back anything and has no incentive what so ever to do so in the future.

I call upon all Turkish Cypriots to take court action and claim their lands from RoC. Until such times as a court case precedent is set, they will deny the Turkish Cypriots all Human and Democratic rights. Once that is done, they will have no alternative but to hand back all the Turkish Cypriot Lands that they have.

Lordo, I thought most TCs foolishly gave their property in the free areas to the trnc regime for GC exchange land.
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Re: Turkish Cypriot Liberation Day

Postby Lordo » Mon Jun 18, 2012 10:58 am

Me Ed most of Greek Cypriots who were refugees in 1974 got a lot of help to (50,000 Cyprus Liras) rebuild there lives. Even Their grandchildren are receiving the same help so long as they are males. Does it mean that They are not entitled to their land back now. After all they have received the same help, and some even Turkish Cypriot properties?

You really have to make your minds up. Either you support Human rights and Democracy or you do not. You cannot pick and choose who can and who cannot.
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Re: Turkish Cypriot Liberation Day

Postby Me Ed » Mon Jun 18, 2012 11:18 am

Lordo wrote:Me Ed most of Greek Cypriots who were refugees in 1974 got a lot of help to (50,000 Cyprus Liras) rebuild there lives. Even Their grandchildren are receiving the same help so long as they are males. Does it mean that They are not entitled to their land back now. After all they have received the same help, and some even Turkish Cypriot properties?

You really have to make your minds up. Either you support Human rights and Democracy or you do not. You cannot pick and choose who can and who cannot.

Lordo, agreements between TCs and GCs are one issue where human rights must be mutually respected.

The real issue is when it comes to doing something about the Turkish settlers, one of which is currently occupying my property.

I don't know who they are, where they have come from, what gives them the right to my property, whether they are paying any rent to reside in my property and to whom this rent is going to.
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Re: Turkish Cypriot Liberation Day

Postby Lordo » Mon Jun 18, 2012 11:44 am

Unlike you, I have met the person who is renting my land. We had a chat and a laugh. No animosity what so ever. I cannot blame him for the circumstances we find ourselves in.

As far as the settlers are concerned, if we had the agreement in 1979, there would have been a few settlers to worry about. The delay has been caused by the RoC. She has said no to every single agreement since 1963. So I am afraid now, we have no choice but to accept the settlers so long as TCs want them. As to the practicality of who does what, the plan Talat gace Christofias,with 90,000 return to their property under the Greek Cypriot Administration, 40,000 to return under Turkish Cypriot Administration and 20,000 compensation was perfectly good deal. It was refused. But what I find difficult to understand is if Christofias did not want it, why did he offer almost identical deal to Eroglu?

The feeble attempt to try to make the Turkish Cypriots look intransigent is not going to work. It's like bolting the door after the horse has bolted.
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Re: Turkish Cypriot Liberation Day

Postby Me Ed » Mon Jun 18, 2012 12:03 pm

Lordo wrote:Unlike you, I have met the person who is renting my land. We had a chat and a laugh. No animosity what so ever. I cannot blame him for the circumstances we find ourselves in.

As far as the settlers are concerned, if we had the agreement in 1979, there would have been a few settlers to worry about. The delay has been caused by the RoC. She has said no to every single agreement since 1963. So I am afraid now, we have no choice but to accept the settlers so long as TCs want them. As to the practicality of who does what, the plan Talat gace Christofias,with 90,000 return to their property under the Greek Cypriot Administration, 40,000 to return under Turkish Cypriot Administration and 20,000 compensation was perfectly good deal. It was refused. But what I find difficult to understand is if Christofias did not want it, why did he offer almost identical deal to Eroglu?

The feeble attempt to try to make the Turkish Cypriots look intransigent is not going to work. It's like bolting the door after the horse has bolted.

So I take it that that the person renting your land is a fellow Cypriot and that's what's so honorable about Cypriots both sides of the divide in that legal action is hardly ever taken between Cypriots in lieu of a settlement.

If you discovered that your property was "owned" by a retired foreign couple or property investor, then by all means sue, I don't think you'll find any objection to this.

However, calling on TCs to take legal action against fellow Cypriots is a very distasteful and dishonorable act but hardly surprising coming from someone who would rather die than receive free medical treatment from the RoC and I'm just thankful that most TCs are honorable people that have respect for the human rights of their fellow Cypriots.
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Re: Turkish Cypriot Liberation Day

Postby Lordo » Tue Jun 19, 2012 4:57 pm

I think waiting for 37 years to come to an agreement is long enough, don't you? It has nothing to do with honour.

Enough is enough.
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Re: Turkish Cypriot Liberation Day

Postby GreekIslandGirl » Tue Jun 19, 2012 7:21 pm

Lordo wrote: ... The delay has been caused by the RoC. She has said no to every single agreement since 1963.


They cannot be termed "agreements" until both have said "Yes" (agreed) to them.

- What "agreements" are you talking about?
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Re: Turkish Cypriot Liberation Day

Postby Viewpoint » Tue Jun 19, 2012 11:23 pm

Lordo wrote:I think waiting for 37 years to come to an agreement is long enough, don't you? It has nothing to do with honour.

Enough is enough.


The world has seen who rejects everything out before them and it aint the TCs, the GCs have what they want a recognized country without the TCs all they have to do now is keep the stupid GCs thinking that they want a solution and that everyone will go back to how it was pre 1974 :lol:
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Re: Turkish Cypriot Liberation Day

Postby CBBB » Tue Jun 19, 2012 11:25 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
Lordo wrote:I think waiting for 37 years to come to an agreement is long enough, don't you? It has nothing to do with honour.

Enough is enough.


The world has seen who rejects everything out before them and it aint the TCs, the GCs have what they want a recognized country without the TCs all they have to do now is keep the stupid GCs thinking that they want a solution and that everyone will go back to how it was pre 1974 :lol:


We only rejected one solution, Rauf Donkey rejected all the others.
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