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[Me Ed]

A timely reminder to VP and all the other pseudo TCs who think otherwise.

It is the Turkish Cypriot citizens of the EU, living on EU territory

The words of The President of the "Turkish Cypriot Chamber of Commerce" Gunay Cerkez

So you want your cake and you want to eat it, huh?? EU when it suits you, Turkey when it doesn't Arseholes.

Did the TCs bother to mention this to Turkey, the entity that is not only occupying EU territory, but erroding their way of life.

These guys don't get it and they never will and hightlights who needs to win who over.

Never mind Turkish Cypriot Liberation Day, in a few years it will be Turkish Cypriot Obliteration Day.

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And the alternative to the current situation is? minority rights amongest revenge seeking GCs? there nothing to fight for as what you offer is not what we want.

VP, who are these revenge seeking GCs that you are referring to?

What exactly are these revenge seeking GCs going to do?

How many revenge seeking GCs have crossed into the occupied zone since the opening of the crossings and perpetrated a revenge attack?

Or is this just a racist sweeping generalisation directed at Greek speaking Cypriots?

Theres enoug of them of them on this forum to prove my point, can you imagine the revenge they would milk out of Tcs if handed their future on a plate as you demand.

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39 days left and counting.

So what the hell are you crying about??

The President of the "Turkish Cypriot Chamber of Commerce" Gunay Cerkez has sent a letter to the President of the European Parliament Martin Schulz:

Mr. Martin Schulz,
President of the European Parliament,
Brussels, Belgium.
7 June 2012

Mr. President,

We followed the visit you paid to our island Cyprus last week with interest but disappointment. As we had indicated in our official invitation to you (dated 2 May 2012), we had very much hoped and expected that you would feel the need to visit both sides of Cyprus and to exchange views with the Turkish Cypriot actors on the island as well in order to get a clear picture of the current situation on the island.

We had expected that during this period of intense UN negotiations and the upcoming Council Presidency of a divided Cyprus, you would see the benefit in seeing both sides of the coin.

Enjoying all the privileges of EU membership, Greek Cypriot representatives already have enough opportunities to speak for themselves at the European Parliament and other international fora. It is the Turkish Cypriot citizens of the EU, living on EU territory, who still cannot represent themselves through their own representatives at the European Parliament which is meant to be the institution closest to European citizens.

It is extremely difficult to imagine how one could possibly understand and analyze the exceptional Cypriot case the EU has been inhabited without consulting both parties to the problem. It is the Turkish Cypriot story that is still unknown to many decision-makers who ironically take decisions that directly affect the future of the Turkish Cypriot people.

Mr. President,

Having proved their desire for the settlement of the Cyprus problem and becoming a part of the European family in 2004, having been given promises to end their isolation, yet still being constantly disappointed by the EU’s failure to deliver on its own promises, the Turkish Cypriot people continue to feel as excluded European citizens.

In the absence of tangible concrete openings to Turkish Cypriots, symbolic gestures of good will, interest and equal treatment towards them carry an even bigger significance. A brief visit by yourself to North Cyprus could have served this purpose and shown the Turkish Cypriot people that they have not been forgotten about.

As the highest level representative of the Turkish Cypriot business community and an institutional solution partner of the European Union in Cyprus, the Turkish Cypriot Chamber of Commerce would have appreciated the opportunity to share its views with you on its role, concerns and suggestions regarding the implementation of the Green Line Regulation as well as the Direct Trade Regulation – a vital and urgent instrument to integrate the Turkish Cypriot people to the EU, to bridge the gap between the Turkish Cypriot and Greek Cypriot economies, and by this way to ensure the sustainability of a future political settlement on the island.

We very much hope that we will have the chance to discuss these matters with you face to face in the near future.

Yours Sincerely,

Gόnay Ηerkez
President

Happy Liberation Day
http://famagusta-gazette.com/open-lette ... 710-69.htm

How ironic, the Gcs force us into the EU and then when we demand our rights they complain.....man you people are really crazy.

[Me Ed]

And the alternative to the current situation is? minority rights amongest revenge seeking GCs? there nothing to fight for as what you offer is not what we want.

VP, who are these revenge seeking GCs that you are referring to?

What exactly are these revenge seeking GCs going to do?

How many revenge seeking GCs have crossed into the occupied zone since the opening of the crossings and perpetrated a revenge attack?

Or is this just a racist sweeping generalisation directed at Greek speaking Cypriots?

Theres enoug of them of them on this forum to prove my point, can you imagine the revenge they would milk out of Tcs if handed their future on a plate as you demand.

VP your point is unfounded because what most forumers want is to engage with other Cypriots in order to discuss their homeland, even if they are as closed minded as you.

Lets talk facts and deeds, since the opening of the crossings, there have been no "revenge" attacks from either side, despite ample opportunity to do so and that's even from GCs visiting their homes only to find it occupied by a Turkish settler.

In fact, on the RoC side, the direct opposite is true with the provision of passports, pensions, health care and employment, not quite the actions of a revenge seeking people, and on top of that the TCs are still looking for confidence building gestures!

... and what has the RoC had from the TC side? Answers on the back of a postage stamp please.

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Meed the divide is the important factor in securing the peace, if either side attempted to do anything it would stick out like a sore thumb but just imagine if we were mixed like the past we would be blaming each other for incidents which imo would be more frequent as it could eaily be concealed as to which side commited the crime.

The benfits you say are from the heart are in fact your resonsiblity as you claim to represent all Cypriots and that includes the Tcs, stop and claim the opposite if you dare...you cannot as the loss would be far greater.

The TRNC doesnt have to do anything for you you dont recognize it nor does it claim to represent you.

[kimon07]

How ironic, the Gcs force us into the EU and then when we demand our rights they complain.....man you people are really crazy.

VP: Are you retarded?

You have no rights.

Because you choose to be illegitimate.

Because you have an illegal "state" because you don't recognize your legitimate government.

Because the North is illegally occupied by a non EU country and illegally populated by non EU Anatolian settlers.

Because you are VIOLATING ALL EU rules and regulations.

Put an end to all of that and you will be in automatically. If you don't want to put an end to all that then shut your mouths and stop complaining and crying.

You shouldn't even have the right to address EU authorities, let alone demanding equal treatment.

What the f*..k have you lot done to help CY when it was struggling for its access? And what have you done after it to become worthy of being part of it? Voting yes for the Annan Plan? HA! That act alone proves that you are UNWORTHY. Because the Annan Plan was destroying Cyprus and it was annulling ALL the benefits of the admission, starting with the non appliance of the EU acquis.

P.S. Don't forget to go watch the parade of the turkish army on your "liberation day". And make sure to cheer and cry of joy. Otherwise the TMT will probably come nocking on your door the very same night.

Oh and take Lordo and the grasshopper with you. And don't forget the flowers

[Me Ed]

Meed the divide is the important factor in securing the peace, if either side attempted to do anything it would stick out like a sore thumb but just imagine if we were mixed like the past we would be blaming each other for incidents which imo would be more frequent as it could eaily be concealed as to which side commited the crime.

The benfits you say are from the heart are in fact your resonsiblity as you claim to represent all Cypriots and that includes the Tcs, stop and claim the opposite if you dare...you cannot as the loss would be far greater.

The TRNC doesnt have to do anything for you you dont recognize it nor does it claim to represent you.

VP,

the benefits are not provided from the heart or any sense of responsibility, they are provided in good faith.

Do you know it would be incredibly easy for the RoC to deny the TCs these benefits by cowardly hiding behind the Cyprus problem and UN resolutions?

However it appears that the Turks and the TCs readily cowardly hide behind the Cyprus problem to keep their ill-gotten "trnc" gains and do nothing as you put it.

I don't believe there would be any major issues if we mixed, after all, this is 2012 and not the 1960s. The RoC is a modern democracy and EU member, and not the non-aligned self-styled Cuba of the Mediterranean that is run by a theocracy.

I guess that we are now very used to the anachronistic arguments put forward by TCs, like Lordo/YFred moaning about a single lane road that was built by the Makarios government to his village over 40 years ago as an example of how TCs would be discriminated to today.

[kimon07]

Everybody stand up. That includes you Maximus and the loser.

Oh Lordo.......?

Any reason why the camera did not zoom at all on the "cheering crowds" of TCs? And why focusing so much on the boots of the soldiers? Some kind of a message to you all up there?

[kimon07]

Everybody stand up. That includes you Maximus and the loser.

Oh Lordo.......?

Any reason why the camera did not zoom at all on the "cheering crowds" of TCs? And why focusing so much on the boots of the soldiers? Some kind of a message to you all up there?

My apologies Lordo. Second time i played it I counted eight people watching it plus two kids in military uniform. That makes them ten all together. And of cource, if you count the officials on the platform, well, maybe 40? Oh OK and the band too. Yes. The band was watcing the parade as well. So 60 including the band, 61 with the grass hopper maybe?

[Maximus]

This letter is indicative of those demanding their so called european rights without recognising that they also have to adhere to the EU aquis and legislature in return, like all EU member states which makes up the territory as a whole. the territory belongs to the republic of Cyprus, not Turkey, not the "TTNC".

I dont know what this so called commerce minister was looking to gain from this letter, but it seems that the main objective was to meet with Mr Shulz to tell him how everyone has it wrong.