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Re: More Threats from Nutty Professor Davutoğlu

Postby Lordo » Sat May 19, 2012 12:25 pm

After talking for 47 years, obviously the resources issue has not been agreed so who do you suggest safeguards the TCs rights? RoC? Yeah sure and put the wolf to safeguard your sheep my shepherd friend.
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Re: More Threats from Nutty Professor Davutoğlu

Postby Me Ed » Sat May 19, 2012 12:32 pm

Lordo wrote:After talking for 47 years, obviously the resources issue has not been agreed so who do you suggest safeguards the TCs rights? RoC? Yeah sure and put the wolf to safeguard your sheep my shepherd friend.

The claiming of rights requires TC participation and contribution.

If you make a conscious decision to not participate or make any contribution then sorry, you're entitled to nought.
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Re: More Threats from Nutty Professor Davutoğlu

Postby Lordo » Sat May 19, 2012 12:36 pm

Me Ed wrote:
Lordo wrote:After talking for 47 years, obviously the resources issue has not been agreed so who do you suggest safeguards the TCs rights? RoC? Yeah sure and put the wolf to safeguard your sheep my shepherd friend.

The claiming of rights requires TC participation and contribution.

If you make a conscious decision to not participate or make any contribution then sorry, you're entitled to nought.


Nice one. I love the GC democracy and human rights. Especially the ones implemented in the 60s. Even prisoners are etitled to something, but it seems we are not even prisoners.

Get stuffed my friend. Which is ironic because that where you is heading.
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Re: More Threats from Nutty Professor Davutoğlu

Postby Me Ed » Sat May 19, 2012 12:45 pm

Lordo wrote:
Me Ed wrote:
Lordo wrote:After talking for 47 years, obviously the resources issue has not been agreed so who do you suggest safeguards the TCs rights? RoC? Yeah sure and put the wolf to safeguard your sheep my shepherd friend.

The claiming of rights requires TC participation and contribution.

If you make a conscious decision to not participate or make any contribution then sorry, you're entitled to nought.


Nice one. I love the GC democracy and human rights. Especially the ones implemented in the 60s. Even prisoners are etitled to something, but it seems we are not even prisoners.

Get stuffed my friend. Which is ironic because that where you is heading.

What, what what?

Oil exploration is a very expensive and risky business my friend as Turkey is finding out with its own drilling.

The RoC had sunk a lot of Cypriot tax payers money in to this very risky ventre, money that could have easily evaporated at the bottom of the Med, and the TCs never offered to make any contribution.

Now that this risk that the Cypriot people (minus TC contribution) have taken is about to pay dividends, the Turkey suddenly put its gunship diplomacy into action citing TC rights.

Let's see if Turkey actually has the balls, because Turkey has been something of an irrevelance over the last few decades,
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Re: More Threats from Nutty Professor Davutoğlu

Postby Lordo » Sat May 19, 2012 1:07 pm

Me Ed wrote:
Lordo wrote:
Me Ed wrote:
Lordo wrote:After talking for 47 years, obviously the resources issue has not been agreed so who do you suggest safeguards the TCs rights? RoC? Yeah sure and put the wolf to safeguard your sheep my shepherd friend.

The claiming of rights requires TC participation and contribution.

If you make a conscious decision to not participate or make any contribution then sorry, you're entitled to nought.


Nice one. I love the GC democracy and human rights. Especially the ones implemented in the 60s. Even prisoners are etitled to something, but it seems we are not even prisoners.

Get stuffed my friend. Which is ironic because that where you is heading.

What, what what?

Oil exploration is a very expensive and risky business my friend as Turkey is finding out with its own drilling.

The RoC had sunk a lot of Cypriot tax payers money in to this very risky ventre, money that could have easily evaporated at the bottom of the Med, and the TCs never offered to make any contribution.

Now that this risk that the Cypriot people (minus TC contribution) have taken is about to pay dividends, the Turkey suddenly put its gunship diplomacy into action citing TC rights.

Let's see if Turkey actually has the balls, because Turkey has been something of an irrevelance over the last few decades,


That is exactly what GC though in 1974. Thinking Greece will be able to stop the turks. Now of course we have Israel. You problem is you don't realise we can only depend on ourselves as we found out in 74. Another problem you have is you never learn and never will.
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Re: More Threats from Nutty Professor Davutoğlu

Postby Me Ed » Sat May 19, 2012 1:14 pm

Lordo wrote:
Me Ed wrote:
Lordo wrote:
Me Ed wrote:
Lordo wrote:After talking for 47 years, obviously the resources issue has not been agreed so who do you suggest safeguards the TCs rights? RoC? Yeah sure and put the wolf to safeguard your sheep my shepherd friend.

The claiming of rights requires TC participation and contribution.

If you make a conscious decision to not participate or make any contribution then sorry, you're entitled to nought.


Nice one. I love the GC democracy and human rights. Especially the ones implemented in the 60s. Even prisoners are etitled to something, but it seems we are not even prisoners.

Get stuffed my friend. Which is ironic because that where you is heading.

What, what what?

Oil exploration is a very expensive and risky business my friend as Turkey is finding out with its own drilling.

The RoC had sunk a lot of Cypriot tax payers money in to this very risky ventre, money that could have easily evaporated at the bottom of the Med, and the TCs never offered to make any contribution.

Now that this risk that the Cypriot people (minus TC contribution) have taken is about to pay dividends, the Turkey suddenly put its gunship diplomacy into action citing TC rights.

Let's see if Turkey actually has the balls, because Turkey has been something of an irrevelance over the last few decades,


That is exactly what GC though in 1974. Thinking Greece will be able to stop the turks. Now of course we have Israel. You problem is you don't realise we can only depend on ourselves as we found out in 74. Another problem you have is you never learn and never will.

Well if you don't need the RoC then just let it carry on with it's drilling in it's own EEZ then.
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Re: More Threats from Nutty Professor Davutoğlu

Postby bill cobbett » Sat May 19, 2012 2:54 pm

Do wish people would stop going on about shares, shares for people called "tcs" or for people called "gcs" for that matter and especially stop making promises for some kind of future post-settlement tribal/zonal share-out.

The bottom line is that any oil/gas found belongs to the Republic, hopefully to use for the benefit of all its individual citizens that it can reach... and for those it can't reach, well tough.
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Re: More Threats from Nutty Professor Davutoğlu

Postby supporttheunderdog » Sat May 19, 2012 3:16 pm

bill cobbett wrote:Do wish people would stop going on about shares, shares for people called "tcs" or for people called "gcs" for that matter and especially stop making promises for some kind of future post-settlement tribal/zonal share-out.

The bottom line is that any oil/gas found belongs to the Republic, hopefully to use for the benefit of all its individual citizens that it can reach... and for those it can't reach, well tough.


yes." Greeks" (there was no nation state of that nme) invaded and conquered Cyprus twice - first in about 1100 BC second time about 320BC. About time Cyprus got independance :D
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Re: More Threats from Nutty Professor Davutoğlu

Postby repulsewarrior » Sun May 20, 2012 12:10 am

...bottom line, that oil belongs to Humanity, and Cypriots are the Stewards of its part. Turks may be appeased with a part of Cyprus and Greece, Israel, Syria, and Lebanon, are on that same list. but you saw Mari, and we all laughed sadly but true it was so stupid; wait when Eroglu makes the martyr because Erdogan creates a bigger disaster at sea: this is the big threat.

...we can express our concern over Turkey's overt demonstration of a claim over Property as she defines a Continental Shelf. the more resources are found and developed the more these issues will be set to explode. a pact is needed toward Safety and Environmental Protection, where as good neighbours the dialog is toward the betterment of all involved, an alliance which may spread to cover the whole Mediterranean, to set standards where our other Global Partners may respect these needs in their own waters, and to prevent the wildcatting Turkey encourages, so too its consequence which means a dying ecology, and dead and/or missing.
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Re: More Threats from Nutty Professor Davutoğlu

Postby Nikitas » Sun May 20, 2012 1:52 pm

RW

A pact exists, it is called the Law of the Sea Convention, which Turkey knows damn well because it signed it, and applies it in the Black Sea, but refuses to apply it in the Med. The reasoning is indicative of Turkish cynicism: they allege that the Med is a "closed" sea. Apparently the Black Sea is not a closed sea.

Turkey is showing its true colors over the issue of oil exploration as well as its hostility in the Aegean. It arbitrarily rejects international law and is attempting to force down everyone's throat its own plans. It has even interfered in the delineation of the EEZ between Greece and Albania in the Ionian Sea, an area in which it has no conceivable interest or potential rights.

They of course interfere where they can. In the case of the Greece-Italy pact they could do nothing so they do not even mention it even though it concerns the same area, the Ionian Sea. That is the sort of cynical entity Turkey is, it pushes it luck only when the situation is risk free. As the neighborhood bully they understand zilch about stewardship and the like.
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