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[boulio]

What a load of bollocks. Cyprus is Turkish and has been since 1571. GC's should be grateful we are allowing them 63% of the island.

and it was byzantine from 400-1204
and it was venetian/lugsain 1204-1571

whats your point?or does turkish history start whenever ot suits them?

[GreekIslandGirl]

The Brits have always known Cyprus is Greek. For example, they referred to returning Cyprus to Greece.

1."I believe each of the ten measures I propose, including the return of Cyprus to Greece will at some stage become a matter of necessity."

(They proposed measures as to how to go about this. Under the heading:)

2. " 10. The return of Cyprus to Greece."

3. "I would strongly advocate that consideration be given to the very early cession of Cyprus to Greece."

(Letter to Bevin; Francis Noel-Baker, MP. 1945)


When they wanted to start the Cyprus problem (1960), they brought in Turkey. So when they wanted to end the Cyprus problem (by 1964) they knew the most viable solution was to remove Turkey and resettle unhappy Turkish Cypriots off to Turkey. Sounds viable to me!

[non-cypriot]

So why do you call London English when so many ethnic minorities which are not English live there?

The dynamics of an ex imperial capital like London is hardly comparable to a young nation in the Mediterranean. The continuous flux of emigrants since after WW2 till today, has defined london's demographics. For the children of emigrants who were born in this country and hold a british passport, its a question of cultural upbringing. 2nd generation emigrants with British passports that grow up within their community, will obviously not feel English. However when traveling, at the eyes of other countries authorities, they are English.
What i mean is that in todays world, ethnicity and nationality are different things, and in the Cypriot case, national union between the two main communities could be key for a solution to the situation you find yourself's in. Being "at each others necks" plays into the hands of autocratic Turkey.

[Cap]

What a load of bollocks. Cyprus is Turkish and has been since 1571. GC's should be grateful we are allowing them 63% of the island.

and it was byzantine from 400-1204
and it was venetian/lugsain 1204-1571

whats your point?or does turkish history start whenever ot suits them?

Owned!

[non-cypriot]

The Brits have always known Cyprus is Greek. For example, they referred to returning Cyprus to Greece.

1."I believe each of the ten measures I propose, including the return of Cyprus to Greece will at some stage become a matter of necessity."

(They proposed measures as to how to go about this. Under the heading:)

2. " 10. The return of Cyprus to Greece."

3. "I would strongly advocate that consideration be given to the very early cession of Cyprus to Greece."

(Letter to Bevin; Francis Noel-Baker, MP. 1945)


When they wanted to start the Cyprus problem (1960), they brought in Turkey. So when they wanted to end the Cyprus problem (by 1964) they knew the most viable solution was to remove Turkey and resettle unhappy Turkish Cypriots off to Turkey. Sounds viable to me!

Sounds like ethical cleansing to me...

[bill cobbett]

The Brits have always known Cyprus is Greek. For example, they referred to returning Cyprus to Greece.

1."I believe each of the ten measures I propose, including the return of Cyprus to Greece will at some stage become a matter of necessity."

(They proposed measures as to how to go about this. Under the heading:)

2. " 10. The return of Cyprus to Greece."

3. "I would strongly advocate that consideration be given to the very early cession of Cyprus to Greece."

(Letter to Bevin; Francis Noel-Baker, MP. 1945)


When they wanted to start the Cyprus problem (1960), they brought in Turkey. So when they wanted to end the Cyprus problem (by 1964) they knew the most viable solution was to remove Turkey and resettle unhappy Turkish Cypriots off to Turkey. Sounds viable to me!

Err... a letter from a GB MP to the Foreign Secretary isn't evidence of a GB government policy in 1945 to "return" CY to Greece. it's only evidence of the individual view of one GB MP.

[Don Kelley]

So please let us all know exactly when in history that Cyprus came under Greek rule ?

It never has been Greek and the inhabitants of the South of the island are mainly of Arab extraction from the countries that surround Cyprus.

Arabs with shoes !!

Who would want to be associated with that lying lazy race of scumbags anyway ?

Agree 100%, the only thing missing from Cyprus are the Pyramids with its Egyptian connections. You've only got to look how the Egyptians in Cyprus and Egypt act the same, look how quick the egyptians ran in the Yom Kippur war abandoning or selling their gear and weapons, and look how the Egyptian cypriots ran in 1974, Addidas/Reebok could have made a brilliant commercial advertising running shoes.

[GreekIslandGirl]

The Brits have always known Cyprus is Greek. For example, they referred to returning Cyprus to Greece.

1."I believe each of the ten measures I propose, including the return of Cyprus to Greece will at some stage become a matter of necessity."

(They proposed measures as to how to go about this. Under the heading:)

2. " 10. The return of Cyprus to Greece."

3. "I would strongly advocate that consideration be given to the very early cession of Cyprus to Greece."

(Letter to Bevin; Francis Noel-Baker, MP. 1945)


When they wanted to start the Cyprus problem (1960), they brought in Turkey. So when they wanted to end the Cyprus problem (by 1964) they knew the most viable solution was to remove Turkey and resettle unhappy Turkish Cypriots off to Turkey. Sounds viable to me!

Sounds like ethical cleansing to me...

I agree it sounds highly ethical to resettle those unhappy TCs who have inadvertently found themselves on a Greek island!

[non-cypriot]

The Brits have always known Cyprus is Greek. For example, they referred to returning Cyprus to Greece.

1."I believe each of the ten measures I propose, including the return of Cyprus to Greece will at some stage become a matter of necessity."

(They proposed measures as to how to go about this. Under the heading:)

2. " 10. The return of Cyprus to Greece."

3. "I would strongly advocate that consideration be given to the very early cession of Cyprus to Greece."

(Letter to Bevin; Francis Noel-Baker, MP. 1945)


When they wanted to start the Cyprus problem (1960), they brought in Turkey. So when they wanted to end the Cyprus problem (by 1964) they knew the most viable solution was to remove Turkey and resettle unhappy Turkish Cypriots off to Turkey. Sounds viable to me!

Sounds like ethical cleansing to me...

I agree it sounds highly ethical to resettle those unhappy TCs who have inadvertently found themselves on a Greek island!

You caught me out in a typo. Good for you! You are bound to catch me again as i have never been to an English school before. Now what Greek Island are you Talking about? Satorini? Paros? or is it Corfu?

[kimon07]

Agree 100%, the only thing missing from Cyprus are the Pyramids with its Egyptian connections. You've only got to look how the Egyptians in Cyprus and Egypt act the same, look how quick the egyptians ran in the Yom Kippur war abandoning or selling their gear and weapons, and look how the Egyptian cypriots ran in 1974, Addidas/Reebok could have made a brilliant commercial advertising running shoes.

The fall of Singapore

The fall of Singapore to the Japanese Army on February 15th 1942 is considered one of the greatest defeats in the history of the British Army and probably Britain’s worst defeat in World War Two. The fall of Singapore in 1942 clearly illustrated the way Japan was to fight in the Far East – a combination of speed and savagery that only ended with the use of the atomic bomb on Hiroshima in August 1945.
http://www.historylearningsite.co.uk/fa ... gapore.htm

A very British defeat

Richard Overy reviews Dunkirk: Fight to the Last Man by Hugh Sebag-Montefiore.
Richard Overy
12:01AM BST 28 May 2006

When is a defeat not a defeat? When it is the retreat from Dunkirk. Perhaps no single operation in the whole of the Second World War captured the popular imagination in Britain as did the transport of the remnants of the British Expeditionary Force back to England in the summer of 1940. The evacuation has even entered the language: everyone knows what is meant by the "Dunkirk spirit".

Yet the retreat was also a humiliating defeat.

The object of British and French forces was to hold back the German attack, sit in France and Belgium as they had done during the Great War, and wait until the battle of attrition took its toll on German resolve. What actually resulted was the smashing of French and British resistance in a few weeks, and Britain's expulsion from a continent she had no hope of re-entering again unaided.

With almost all their equipment lost and their organisation in disarray, the British armies that returned to southern England were scarcely a fighting force.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/book ... efeat.html