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[Viewpoint]

Fragna ..... there are no borders in Cyprus .... only a cease fire line because Cyprus does not border with any other Country.

Another myth, are you people so empty head your are fed these myths which you believe, if there is no border then why do you show your passport to the police? how i forgot the police controls are not there either

[humanist]

You would love to legitimise your illegalities. Do you sit on the UN table? No you don't

[Me Ed]

VP is upset because her arguments have been shot down in flames.

All she want's to hear is that when TCs visit the free areas for medical treatment, they get pushed to the back of the queue and get second rate treatment.

However, in this case VP has been denied fuel for her bigotary and has no option but to lash out.

SAD.

[humanist]

Yes I have noticed that all issues are based on personal projections of hate, racism and bigotry against the majority of the Cypriot people. But then again a self confessed Turk will not be able to comprehend this.

The reality is if the TC's did not like the way they have been treated in the hospitals or other services in the Free Areas they would not come. There are also entrenched hipocrisy issues as well why would you seek medical health services or other services from your enemy?

[FragnaticDeath]

Fragna ..... there are no borders in Cyprus .... only a cease fire line because Cyprus does not border with any other Country.

yeah thanks for correcting, i did mean the cease fire line! Anyhow VP you really lost the sense of what you are talking about.

[repulsewarrior]

The likelihood of discrimination against the TCs will run riot, in a unitary state how will you use EU law to stop this? If we take an everyday example say two candidates apply for a job with a GC company one a TC the other a GC, qualifications are exactly the same but the board is made up of GCs who do you think they will choose? Another example a TC lady has her bag stolen and she reports this to GC police, she is ignored and told to go home, she goes to complain but the police stick together and ignore her pleas for her rights.

We would have to ask the minorities in the south about how they are treated by the GCs, I cannot answer this but I they have accepted becoming just another minority we would never accept this as we see our selves as equal partners, our numbers maybe less than yours but that makes us no less a partner.

...i think vp that your assumptions are too easy, more is expected from you, frankly they demean a very good discussion. there are many reasons why a Policeman is Ignorant, he/she does not have to be "Greek" to act in this way. i live in Canada, i have people who choose to give me jobs because i speak their language, and i am able to express myself multi-lingually. you dismiss the solidarity as Cypriots that we can both greatly prosper from, and you speak for yourself in the third person, but because "Greeks" exist, it does not make your responsibility to speak out against them an opportunity to malign any Greek (or Turk) you wish. if i have blood on my hands, it is of my brother who was made missing because he stayed; i know i will rest when Cyprus is Free.

...vp, why not comment clearly, concisely and in detail, to my manifesto thingy; you want partnership?

Now think of the problems you have encountered in Canada and times this by 100 only then will you understand what TCs will face in a unitary state as a minority, thats why we need transition periods and to administer our own area.

As for your manifesto I have said before I am against cantons.

obviously you will not take the time to be sincere, i would have thought that the National Assemblies would at least account for some part of your comments, never mind how Citizens vote for their Federal Government...

...as for the Ignorance that I encounter here, being not a Francophone by birth, i don't blame all the French for this display of intolerance from the few; frankly it has enlightened me how hard it must be for a Turk, to be surrounded by "Turks", (and i don't blame Anglophones for the "Blokes" amongst them either). unlike you, my viewpoint is forward looking, i am not seeking what was, or even what could have been, but rather what is far better and what should be based on Universal Principals; i realise that ethnospheres everywhere are under the threat of extinction.

i imagine that you are incapable of debating me on the merits of my manifesto simply because they have within them these Human values, whether you are Greek, or "Greek", Turk, "Turk", French, Nazi, or non-Nazi, your acumen and skill applied seems natural, unless, my observations represent the degradation of your own certainty in yours, i ask something simple for you, it would seem impossible, after years of repeating my plea you deny; my friend, ask where is the Greek Constituency, a Cypriot Government should not have to be their representative as Persons.

[Viewpoint]

VP is upset because her arguments have been shot down in flames.

All she want's to hear is that when TCs visit the free areas for medical treatment, they get pushed to the back of the queue and get second rate treatment.

However, in this case VP has been denied fuel for her bigotary and has no option but to lash out.

SAD.

Me Ed firstly I will put you right I am a him so try and be civil, there is a Turkish saying "if a man is about to drown he will grab at anything, even a snake".

[Viewpoint]

Fragna ..... there are no borders in Cyprus .... only a cease fire line because Cyprus does not border with any other Country.

yeah thanks for correcting, i did mean the cease fire line! Anyhow VP you really lost the sense of what you are talking about.

Not really its just that you are incapable of understanding thats why you are confused.

[GreekIslandGirl]

By using the ceasefire line to access free treatment it reinforces the legality of the RoC and is a humiliation for Turkey. Well done VP for shopping here and getting your bunions sorted

[Kikapu]

Look you people hate us so much that dont you think you would abolish these services today if you werent reaping benefits far far greater. Go ahead stop them if you can.

These free medical services can be stopped on a dime if the RoC wanted. But it will effect ALL Cypriots. All they have to do is to privatize the medical system, just like the system in Switzerland, where EVERY individual has a private insurance paid by themselves. All the RoC needs to do, is to tax individuals/family earners less, so that they can afford to pay for their own private medical insurances. TCs as RoC citizens coming from the north will have no choice but to also take out a private medical insurances if they want to be examined in the south. The only problem for the TCs would be, unless they work in the south, they will not benefit from lower taxes given by the RoC to afford private insurance. They will either use the medical system in the north, free or private, take out medical insurance in the south, or, pay cash when using the system in the south. In the end, the TCs would be the net losers, so don't think it can't be done if the RoC wanted to screw the TCs.