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[repulsewarrior]

The likelihood of discrimination against the TCs will run riot, in a unitary state how will you use EU law to stop this? If we take an everyday example say two candidates apply for a job with a GC company one a TC the other a GC, qualifications are exactly the same but the board is made up of GCs who do you think they will choose? Another example a TC lady has her bag stolen and she reports this to GC police, she is ignored and told to go home, she goes to complain but the police stick together and ignore her pleas for her rights.

We would have to ask the minorities in the south about how they are treated by the GCs, I cannot answer this but I they have accepted becoming just another minority we would never accept this as we see our selves as equal partners, our numbers maybe less than yours but that makes us no less a partner.

...i think vp that your assumptions are too easy, more is expected from you, frankly they demean a very good discussion. there are many reasons why a Policeman is Ignorant, he/she does not have to be "Greek" to act in this way. i live in Canada, i have people who choose to give me jobs because i speak their language, and i am able to express myself multi-lingually. you dismiss the solidarity as Cypriots that we can both greatly prosper from, and you speak for yourself in the third person, but because "Greeks" exist, it does not make your responsibility to speak out against them an opportunity to malign any Greek (or Turk) you wish. if i have blood on my hands, it is of my brother who was made missing because he stayed; i know i will rest when Cyprus is Free.

...vp, why not comment clearly, concisely and in detail, to my manifesto thingy; you want partnership?

[B25]

I cant help it where vp is concerned, he, she , it brings out the worst in me.

[Me Ed]

The likelihood of discrimination against the TCs will run riot, in a unitary state how will you use EU law to stop this? If we take an everyday example say two candidates apply for a job with a GC company one a TC the other a GC, qualifications are exactly the same but the board is made up of GCs who do you think they will choose? Another example a TC lady has her bag stolen and she reports this to GC police, she is ignored and told to go home, she goes to complain but the police stick together and ignore her pleas for her rights.

We would have to ask the minorities in the south about how they are treated by the GCs, I cannot answer this but I they have accepted becoming just another minority we would never accept this as we see our selves as equal partners, our numbers maybe less than yours but that makes us no less a partner.

VP,

these are two good examples and of course in your first example in a united Cyprus you will also get TC owned companies which will inevitably face the same challenge. However, as can be demonstrated for example in the UK, as time goes by HR and recruitment boards do eventually become diverse, and the playing field will become level in both GC and TC owned companies.

You're second example is of course more serious and the ECHR is there to address these issues.

However, if you speak to TCs that have sought treatment in hospitals in the free areas, you will find that they have been treated very well with respect and dignity throughout their stay in the hospital.

[GreekIslandGirl]

Considering the population is 300,000 in the north, how many actually visit the southern hospitals a year? 100? Anybody got any figures to see what percentages are involved before we can make such uneducated hypocritical stupefying comments.

What proportion of the 40,000 surviving TCs in the occupied area, get sick regularly (with more than just a cold)?

The illegal settlers are stuck with your butchers and fake drugs.

Pending from yesterday: Lordo - will you answer my question as to why you expect the RoC to treat every illegal settler from the mass of 80 Million Turks that Turkey chooses to dump here?

Are those 300,000 all TCs?

[Viewpoint]

The likelihood of discrimination against the TCs will run riot, in a unitary state how will you use EU law to stop this? If we take an everyday example say two candidates apply for a job with a GC company one a TC the other a GC, qualifications are exactly the same but the board is made up of GCs who do you think they will choose? Another example a TC lady has her bag stolen and she reports this to GC police, she is ignored and told to go home, she goes to complain but the police stick together and ignore her pleas for her rights.

We would have to ask the minorities in the south about how they are treated by the GCs, I cannot answer this but I they have accepted becoming just another minority we would never accept this as we see our selves as equal partners, our numbers maybe less than yours but that makes us no less a partner.

...i think vp that your assumptions are too easy, more is expected from you, frankly they demean a very good discussion. there are many reasons why a Policeman is Ignorant, he/she does not have to be "Greek" to act in this way. i live in Canada, i have people who choose to give me jobs because i speak their language, and i am able to express myself multi-lingually. you dismiss the solidarity as Cypriots that we can both greatly prosper from, and you speak for yourself in the third person, but because "Greeks" exist, it does not make your responsibility to speak out against them an opportunity to malign any Greek (or Turk) you wish. if i have blood on my hands, it is of my brother who was made missing because he stayed; i know i will rest when Cyprus is Free.

...vp, why not comment clearly, concisely and in detail, to my manifesto thingy; you want partnership?

Now think of the problems you have encountered in Canada and times this by 100 only then will you understand what TCs will face in a unitary state as a minority, thats why we need transition periods and to administer our own area.

As for your manifesto I have said before I am against cantons.

[Viewpoint]

The likelihood of discrimination against the TCs will run riot, in a unitary state how will you use EU law to stop this? If we take an everyday example say two candidates apply for a job with a GC company one a TC the other a GC, qualifications are exactly the same but the board is made up of GCs who do you think they will choose? Another example a TC lady has her bag stolen and she reports this to GC police, she is ignored and told to go home, she goes to complain but the police stick together and ignore her pleas for her rights.

We would have to ask the minorities in the south about how they are treated by the GCs, I cannot answer this but I they have accepted becoming just another minority we would never accept this as we see our selves as equal partners, our numbers maybe less than yours but that makes us no less a partner.

VP,

these are two good examples and of course in your first example in a united Cyprus you will also get TC owned companies which will inevitably face the same challenge. However, as can be demonstrated for example in the UK, as time goes by HR and recruitment boards do eventually become diverse, and the playing field will become level in both GC and TC owned companies.

You're second example is of course more serious and the ECHR is there to address these issues.

However, if you speak to TCs that have sought treatment in hospitals in the free areas, you will find that they have been treated very well with respect and dignity throughout their stay in the hospital.

The GCs being the majority we would be faced with this sort of discrimination more than yourselves and the diversity you speak will only evolve if it is allowed which unfortunately for us would take many many years allowing for our past history and the need of GCs for revenge and making the TCs pay.

As for the applying to the ECHR for ones rights exactly how long does the average case take 10 15 years????

[B25]

The likelihood of discrimination against the TCs will run riot, in a unitary state how will you use EU law to stop this? If we take an everyday example say two candidates apply for a job with a GC company one a TC the other a GC, qualifications are exactly the same but the board is made up of GCs who do you think they will choose? Another example a TC lady has her bag stolen and she reports this to GC police, she is ignored and told to go home, she goes to complain but the police stick together and ignore her pleas for her rights.

We would have to ask the minorities in the south about how they are treated by the GCs, I cannot answer this but I they have accepted becoming just another minority we would never accept this as we see our selves as equal partners, our numbers maybe less than yours but that makes us no less a partner.

VP,

these are two good examples and of course in your first example in a united Cyprus you will also get TC owned companies which will inevitably face the same challenge. However, as can be demonstrated for example in the UK, as time goes by HR and recruitment boards do eventually become diverse, and the playing field will become level in both GC and TC owned companies.

You're second example is of course more serious and the ECHR is there to address these issues.

However, if you speak to TCs that have sought treatment in hospitals in the free areas, you will find that they have been treated very well with respect and dignity throughout their stay in the hospital.

Absolute tosh, so what you are sayinf Mr ed that all foreigners are discriminated in this way worldwide??? Don't encourage him for gawd sake, he already comes up with pathetic examples.
I gave him a true life example of my personal experience (as a fascist that many have mabelled me here), yet he just rubbished it.

These are the intransigent excuses we hear on a daily basis, which is why there hs been no agreement to date. VP needs 40,000 solders up him butt to feel safe. Id anyone needs protection and guarnatees it is the GCs.
Bloody hell.

[Viewpoint]

The likelihood of discrimination against the TCs will run riot, in a unitary state how will you use EU law to stop this? If we take an everyday example say two candidates apply for a job with a GC company one a TC the other a GC, qualifications are exactly the same but the board is made up of GCs who do you think they will choose? Another example a TC lady has her bag stolen and she reports this to GC police, she is ignored and told to go home, she goes to complain but the police stick together and ignore her pleas for her rights.

We would have to ask the minorities in the south about how they are treated by the GCs, I cannot answer this but I they have accepted becoming just another minority we would never accept this as we see our selves as equal partners, our numbers maybe less than yours but that makes us no less a partner.

VP,

these are two good examples and of course in your first example in a united Cyprus you will also get TC owned companies which will inevitably face the same challenge. However, as can be demonstrated for example in the UK, as time goes by HR and recruitment boards do eventually become diverse, and the playing field will become level in both GC and TC owned companies.

You're second example is of course more serious and the ECHR is there to address these issues.

However, if you speak to TCs that have sought treatment in hospitals in the free areas, you will find that they have been treated very well with respect and dignity throughout their stay in the hospital.

Absolute tosh, so what you are sayinf Mr ed that all foreigners are discriminated in this way worldwide??? Don't encourage him for gawd sake, he already comes up with pathetic examples.
I gave him a true life example of my personal experience (as a fascist that many have mabelled me here), yet he just rubbished it.

These are the intransigent excuses we hear on a daily basis, which is why there hs been no agreement to date. VP needs 40,000 solders up him butt to feel safe. Id anyone needs protection and guarnatees it is the GCs.
Bloody hell.

B52 you are a facist of the worst kind and you have no answers only that the island is Greek and therefore they should be allowed to rule, well f--k you we will continue to do what we are doing now to stop people like you ever having anything to do with the north ever again. If you should ever come to your senses and start understanding that we are partners and that we have to be treated that way otherwise you will continue to move further and further away from ever finding a solution.

[FragnaticDeath]

VP is the EU presidency of Cyprus really kicking you in the nuts? And oh yes please do so, close the borders for the whole period of the EU presidency.

[humanist]

Fragna ..... there are no borders in Cyprus .... only a cease fire line because Cyprus does not border with any other Country.