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[bsharpish]

Also -

As I indicated earlier .......

You can be proud of your nation, wish to remove illegal immigrants, seek to limit legal immigration, wish to prioritise your national resources for the benefit of its citizens AND have free travel and trade between " like minded" nations, seek international justice, agree fair taxes, help those in need and improve tolerance/education and welfare BUT have many other not so "politically correct" ideals WITHOUT resorting to infantile,ignorant and plain dangerous worship of the demagogues of the extreme left or, in this case, right.
Similarly you can achieve much of this without the technocrat imposing, unelected hegemony of the EU.

[GreekIslandGirl]

And also, bill cobbett is a hypocrite for spreading propaganda and attenuating the truth to suit his persistent and Cyprus-damaging, anti-Greek rhetoric.

By spreading lies and propaganda he is no better than those who do deny war crimes and atrocities.

He has already influenced bsharpish who has taken bill at his word and not viewed the information for himself. This is how TCs are poisoned against the GCs and bill cobbett is no better than TMT and the Grey Wolves in this capacity.

1.He has influenced me as much as you do.
2. I'm quite capable of doing my own, free thinking, research
3. Look at the iconography they use, the presentation style and the company they keep ..... Fawning nazi wannabe's - No ifs or buts about it , however, if you are happy to convince yourself that it's all misquotes,photoshopped imagery and left wing propaganda ........... More the fool you.
4. Go ahead and bury your head in the sand if you like but don't patronise me.

I would never vote for them just like I have never voted for the BNP. But I support the right to have these parties as a voice of dissent to extreme elements which they themselves are against. After all, neither the BNP nor GD are against humanity - or against any specific nationality. They oppose those elements which abuse the system of civilisation and the laws of the land.

Nick Griffin has been one of the strongest supporters against what the Turks are doing in Cyprus. He bothered to go to the north and has taken photographs of the desecration of Orthodox churches to hold up against the Turks. All those other politicians are pussyfooting around trying to be politically correct. Sometimes certain things need to be said, be corrected, otherwise we have a "Lord of the Flies" degeneration!

[bill cobbett]

GI Girl wrote various bits of rubbish above, to which BillC would say...

Pollocks!!!

There is one set of tests of our views, these are the tests in places like the Courts of the ECHR, of the Charter of the UN, of the International Criminal Court and tested in these places against a set of Rational and Consistent and Universal Principals of Law that give us a guide as to how people and nations might live peacefully together.

BillC's views are consistent with all these and will pass these tests.

On the other hand the deplorable views of people like the Throw The Turks in the Gas Chambers and Greek Fascist supporting GI Girl and the TMT/Volkan supporters, the Promoters of Apartheid VP, Halil and Bordo (and we can throw all this lot in to the same waste-bucket) fail these tests cos they will pick and choose from these laws to suit their views as needed. There is no "pick 'n' mix", these Universal Principles come as a whole package without Derogations.

To these Nationalists these internationally respected tests are of no value, to these people Blind and Unquestioning Love of the Flag, whether a Greek one, or a Turkish one, or the one of "crnt", is the test. The same tests by the way Kimon, who raises the matter, are failed by those who put Political Party first, whether its Fascism or Communism... or anything in between being immaterial.

Anyway, to get away from the personal attacks and back to the subject of the thread, Fascism in Greece and in CY...

Is there anyone in any doubt after listening to what the leader of Golden Dawn had to say in the video, when he tries to cast doubts on the Holocaust, when he says the Gas Ovens are a fabrication of the victors etc that this movement is indeed a National Socialist one...?, one that takes advantage of the misery of many in Greece at the the mo, one that, in a position of power, will judge people by the shape and length of their noses, one that presents a nice and cuddly message to start with, a message that takes in the Gullible, Soft of Brain and Politically Naive like GI Girl, one that we all (well most of us) hoped we'd seen the last of at Nuremberg .... ???

[kurupetos]

[kurupetos]

Let us summarise:

I am not a communist and Kimon is just a plain old fascist. Kurupetos may be excused due to ... foolishness. Oracle just doesn't count.

Thanks.

[Jerry]

.......... a message that takes in the Gullible, Soft of Brain and Politically Naive like GI Girl, one that we all (well most of us) hoped we'd seen the last of at Nuremberg .... ???

Well there's a surprise, I thought she was younger than that.

[Bananiot]

The Greeks kicked out the Nazis and brought in the fascists.

[kurupetos]

The Greeks kicked out the Nazis and brought in the fascists.

Don't forget to wipe you *ss.

[yialousa1971]

Let us summarise:

I am not a communist and Kimon is just a plain old fascist. Kurupetos may be excused due to ... foolishness. Oracle just doesn't count.

What about me.

[wyoming cowboy]

Cobbs, this is for you...

jai enas laos evourise mrosta mou san tin sfera...... i think Paphitis recorded this after a few shots of zivania


these songs make me laugh so hard