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[GreekIslandGirl]

The other hypocrite here is bill cobbett.

Whilst he advocates the return of illegal immigrants (settlers) from the north of Cyprus back to Turkey, he does not afford the same right to the Greeks who have even more illegal immigrants roaming their streets.

[GreekIslandGirl]

Bill cobbett's hypocrisy in starting this thread is even more worrying because when Cyprus becomes a democratically run unitary state, he is the sort of person who would object when TC areas vote in their representatives to have a voice in the parliament. These minority people (TCs and GD, who make up 5% to 15% in some regions) who are targeted as extremes by people such as bill cobbett have just as much right to voice their concerns about issues in a parliament as anyone else does.

[GreekIslandGirl]

And also, bill cobbett is a hypocrite for spreading propaganda and attenuating the truth to suit his persistent and Cyprus-damaging, anti-Greek rhetoric.

By spreading lies and propaganda he is no better than those who do deny war crimes and atrocities.

He has already influenced bsharpish who has taken bill at his word and not viewed the information for himself. This is how TCs are poisoned against the GCs and bill cobbett is no better than TMT and the Grey Wolves in this capacity.

[GreekIslandGirl]

Furthermore, those who compare nationalist parties such as GD with Nazis are actually denying how evil the real Nazis were.

[Bananiot]

Let us summarise:

I am not a communist and Kimon is just a plain old fascist. Kurupetos may be excused due to ... foolishness. Oracle just doesn't count.

[kimon07]

Let us summarise............:

Yeah, let us do just that:

fifth column n.

A clandestine subversive organization working within a country to further an invading enemy's military and political aimshttp://www.thefreedictionary.com/fifth+column


A fifth column is a group of people who clandestinely undermine a larger group such as a nation from within. A fifth column can be a group of secret sympathizers of an enemy that are involved in sabotage within military defense lines, or a country's borders.[1] A key tactic of the fifth column is the secret introduction of supporters into the whole fabric of the entity under attack.[2] This clandestine infiltration is especially effective with positions concerning national policy and defense.[2] From influential positions like these (and like schools maybe?) , fifth-column tactics can be effectively utilized, from stoking fears through misinformation campaigns, to traditional techniques like espionage.[2]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fifth_column

fifth column noun

Definition
a group of people who support the enemies of the country they live in and secretly help them

http://dictionary.cambridge.org/diction ... fth-column

[GreekIslandGirl]

Tut, tut. Bananiot still needs to work on his misogynistic tendencies.

[Me Ed]

Far left and far right ideologies are two cheeks of the same ass.

To believe that this Golden Dawn believes in democracy just shows how naive some people are.

Historically the first thing any far left and far right parties do when the get power is to ban elections and they don't go quietly - this was the case for the soviets, the nazis and facist islamists.

In the case of Greece, if a far right party got into power, it will take the spilling of a lot of Greek blood to get them out of power.

[bsharpish]

You can (as I do) have strong views on immigration, particularly the financial kind.
You can believe that a homogenous, multi cultural, globalised world is a fools dream that strips us of our history, culture and identity.
You can believe that the march of wahhabi influenced Islam into the democratic, christian west needs to be halted.
You can wrap yourself in the flag of your homeland and be proud of your heritage.

But when you deny the holocaust, surround yourself with the trappings of fascism, wear black shirts and shout sieg heil, regard the "Austrian corporal" as anything other than a deranged monster then adopt the stylised imagery of this loathsome regime......... Then the wonder of free speech has done its work and exposed you as the ignorant, peasant piece of shit that you truly are.

Let me try to rephrase the last paragraph:

"But when you deny the holocaust and the Gulags, surround yourself with the trappings of fascism or communism, wear black or red shirts......regard the "Austrian corporal" and the Soviet butcher as anything other than deranged monsters, then adopt the stylised imagery and salutes of any of these loathsome regimes......... Then the wonder of free speech has done its work and exposed you as the ignorant, peasant piece of shit that you truly are".

While, if you condemn the crimes of one of them but you pretend not to have heard anything about those of the other, then you are exposed as the hypocrite fascist/communist piece of shit that you truly are.

Completely agree with you ..........

[bsharpish]

And also, bill cobbett is a hypocrite for spreading propaganda and attenuating the truth to suit his persistent and Cyprus-damaging, anti-Greek rhetoric.

By spreading lies and propaganda he is no better than those who do deny war crimes and atrocities.

He has already influenced bsharpish who has taken bill at his word and not viewed the information for himself. This is how TCs are poisoned against the GCs and bill cobbett is no better than TMT and the Grey Wolves in this capacity.

1.He has influenced me as much as you do.
2. I'm quite capable of doing my own, free thinking, research
3. Look at the iconography they use, the presentation style and the company they keep ..... Fawning nazi wannabe's - No ifs or buts about it , however, if you are happy to convince yourself that it's all misquotes,photoshopped imagery and left wing propaganda ........... More the fool you.
4. Go ahead and bury your head in the sand if you like but don't patronise me.