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[GreekIslandGirl]

Every party has good and bad points.

[kurupetos]

Every so often he vows to start a better life.

But when night comes with her own counsels,

with her compromises, and with her promises;

but when night comes with her own power

of the body that wants and demands, he returns,

forlorn, to the same fatal joy.

[kimon07]

The communist party of Greece was characterized by George Papandreou (grand father of Forest G.A.P.) as the party of “Crime and Treason”.

When Greece was attacked by Italy and resisted they accused Metaxas of having sided with the colonialists and were calling upon the Greek People not to fight (just like Bananiot suggesting that we should not had resisted the Turkish invasion). They changed attitude only after the Stalin - Hittler pact was violated by the latter.

After the liberation of the country from the Germans and the other jackals, it staged a war against the Greek state, aiming to abolish the parliamentary republic and establish a communist regime which would have been worse than that of Albania.

The deaths (murders) ethnic cleansing (paidomazoma= children collection) and damages caused by the communist party during this war were simply devastating, worse than those caused by the Germans, the Italians, the Bulgarians and the Albanians put together, during the German occupation from 1941 to 1944.

During this war the communist had also formed units consisting of Slavs and Bulgarians and was promising to let them have Macedonia and Trace if it prevailed.

In many of their conferences they declared that Macedonia should be detached from the Greek State and be handed to the Slavs.

In 1912 they were fanatically against the annexation of Macedonia to Greece.

All the terrorist acts and murders in Greece after 1974 were committed by communists and organisations belonging to factions of the communist wing of Greece.

Even today, both the communist party as well as many other greek communist factions, advertise and declare that they abide by the constitutional order only because they have to. BUT their ideal is the abolition of the parliamentary republic and the imposition of communist tyranny, as they openly declare. Golden Dawn supports the existing parliamentary system and none of their declarations or actions indicate the contrary.

The greek communist party denies to condemn the crimes and the ethnic cleansings and crimes against humanity committed by Stalin. On the contrary, Golden Dawn openly condemned repeatedly the Holocaust.

The greek communist party is against NATO and the EU. Golden Dawn supports the participation of Greece to both.

Now then. Can someone please explain to me why the KKE criminal and treasonous mafia should be allowed to participate to the political life of Greece but Golden Dawn should not?

And can someone please explain to me why so many "sensitive democratic souls" in Europe and the US are so much worried about the entry of the Golden Dawn in the greek parliament but they don't give a damn about the fact that the communist mafia is there since 1974?

Oh, and another thing. The only periods when the greek governments were not looting the greek people and the grek state were the governments of Ioannis Metaxas and George Papadopoulos. And yes, Golden Dawn openly express their admiration for Ioannis Metaxas.

[bill cobbett]

One of the Leaders of the Fascist Neo-Nazi Golden Dawg, a certain Nikos Michaloliakos, Denies the Holocaust in this recent interview on Mega...

This leader of Rusty Spawn claims 6 million gassed in the Concentration Camps is an exaggeration...!!!

This chap says...

"There were no Gas Chambers"

He goes on to say...

"There were no Ovens, this is a Lie"

... and to describe Adolph Hitler as... "a Great Man of the 20th Century" .... !!!!

[repulsewarrior]

http://www.orderofthegoldendawn.com/theorder.html

...(lol) another golden dawn, stranger than the one in Greece, but not as hostile, nor as intolerant.

...as far as i can see this Greek Party is a one trick pony, without the credibility to say they are capable to lead Greece in a world of Global partners.

a good question is their financing...

...this may give the Greek voters an indication of the motives and supporters of this gang.

...is it (almost) all male, beside anti-immagrant, no photos i've seen indicate otherwise?

[kurupetos]

[kimon07]

One of the Leaders of the Fascist Neo-Nazi Golden Dawg, a certain Nikos Michaloliakos, Denies the Holocaust in this recent interview on Mega...

Not so. He condemned it saying that he condemns all crimes against humanity including those commited by the allies and mentioned Dresden as an example were 20.000 families purished aftrer just one bombing raid, as we all know.

This leader of Rusty Spawn claims 6 million gassed in the Concentration Camps is an exaggeration...!!!

True. But he claims that even anti nazzi historians, doubt the figure.

This chap says... "There were no Gas Chambers" He goes on to say...

"There were no Ovens, this is a Lie"

True. And what shall we say about those who deny the Gulags? Are we being choosy here?

... and to describe Adolph Hitler as... "a Great Man of the 20th Century" .... !!!!

The exact words were "a great historical figure of the 20th century" meaning that he left his mark to recent history not necessarily a positive one. But I wonder. If the Golden Dawn are neo-Nazi, how come they got some of their highest percentages in villages like Kalavryta were the Nazis committed some of their worst mass atrocities against the Greek people?

And you have not answered my question. What about the murderous communist mafia of the KKE and their hooded murderous factions? Should they be in parliament?

Let's face it. The Greek people don't need any lessons about war crimes and crimes against humanity. They suffered them both by the Fascists and the Nazis and the Bulgarians and the Albanians and the thugs of Stalin. And they can judge much better than you and me. To make a long story short. The Greek people today don't give a shit about what Golden Dawn think of Hitler or his crimes. They judge them based only on what they do and what they promise to do to help them to overcome their poverty and their suffering from the everyday crime of the illegal immigrants and their proposals of how to make their home country a safe place to live and prosper again.

P.S. Can you please tell me which is the group which published the banner included in your initial post (the one equalizing GD with Nazism)? Maybe I will be able to tell you who they really are. I bet they are the some bastards who advocate in favor of legitimizing ALL illegal immigrants, of making them Greek citizens and of granting them voting rights in local and national elections.



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[bsharpish]

You can (as I do) have strong views on immigration, particularly the financial kind.
You can believe that a homogenous, multi cultural, globalised world is a fools dream that strips us of our history, culture and identity.
You can believe that the march of wahhabi influenced Islam into the democratic, christian west needs to be halted.
You can wrap yourself in the flag of your homeland and be proud of your heritage.

But when you deny the holocaust, surround yourself with the trappings of fascism, wear black shirts and shout sieg heil, regard the "Austrian corporal" as anything other than a deranged monster then adopt the stylised imagery of this loathsome regime......... Then the wonder of free speech has done its work and exposed you as the ignorant, peasant piece of shit that you truly are.

[kimon07]

I suggest we all watch the whole video and not just the fragments which the mafia of the KKE isolated. And I suggest we listen to citizens who explain why they supported them and why they will vote for them again.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... qd0QZM9V4#!

[kimon07]

You can (as I do) have strong views on immigration, particularly the financial kind.
You can believe that a homogenous, multi cultural, globalised world is a fools dream that strips us of our history, culture and identity.
You can believe that the march of wahhabi influenced Islam into the democratic, christian west needs to be halted.
You can wrap yourself in the flag of your homeland and be proud of your heritage.

But when you deny the holocaust, surround yourself with the trappings of fascism, wear black shirts and shout sieg heil, regard the "Austrian corporal" as anything other than a deranged monster then adopt the stylised imagery of this loathsome regime......... Then the wonder of free speech has done its work and exposed you as the ignorant, peasant piece of shit that you truly are.

Let me try to rephrase the last paragraph:

"But when you deny the holocaust and the Gulags, surround yourself with the trappings of fascism or communism, wear black or red shirts......regard the "Austrian corporal" and the Soviet butcher as anything other than deranged monsters, then adopt the stylised imagery and salutes of any of these loathsome regimes......... Then the wonder of free speech has done its work and exposed you as the ignorant, peasant piece of shit that you truly are".

While, if you condemn the crimes of one of them but you pretend not to have heard anything about those of the other, then you are exposed as the hypocrite fascist/communist piece of shit that you truly are.