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Pyrplizer

put yourself in their shoes humanist.Poor people that had no other choice.
Beleive me Bananiot's friend are not taking him for a ride. I don't know his friends actually, but I ve met too many other Kibrislis that are he describes.

Pyrpolizer

I am wearing the other shoe.

They do have a choice and I think the more we are trying to be politically correct the worse the situation is getting.

I actually have no problem with a solution where settlers get to stay. But to stay as Cypriots not as Turks voting for Turkey but Cypriots voting for Cyprus and having Cyprus' interests at heart. Thats how open minded and liberal I am in my views. But the TC's and the leadership they have chosen in clearly not only adding to tension but it is also detrimental to all Cypriots including settlers.

They also have a choice and they actually have more choice than a GC refugee.

[kurupetos]

bananiot, your mates are taking you for a ride. For if they were peaceful people they would have done the right thing, move out of te refugee home, seek assistance from the RoC and build their home on their block of land in the free areas. Unless of course they were originally from the now occupied area of Cyprus.

Put yourself in their shoes humanist.Poor people that had no other choice.
Beleive me Bananiot's friend are not taking him for a ride. I don't know his friends actually, but I ve met too many other Kibrislis that are he describes.

Bananiot is a partitionist, since he supported the partitionist AP in 2004. Are you a partitionist too? Let's have it.

[Pyrpolizer]

Sorry, but I disagree with Bananiot. It's not just the Grey Wolves that wanted partition, or the whole of Cyprus for the creation of their own Turkish state. It was, and is, the majority of the TCs. The Grey Wolves are the creation of TCs. They will take what they can get away with. They will hold on for as long as they can. You cannot then blame some GCs for not wanting to mix with "TCs" whilst they have Grey Wolves and Turkey riding along beside them.

Let's not blame people collectively shall we? LOL the Grey wolves were created by Turkesh in 1969 IN TURKEY, long after the Kibrislis raised their taksim . They started as Turanists (Pan-Turkism) and idealists. Evolved to murderers.... still remain Turanists though

No TCs ever joined forces with the colonialist Brits to make the lives of freedom-seeking GCs a misery. No TC ever killed a GC for being Greek. No TCs were ever in the TMT or planted false flag bombs. NO TCs ever sold GC-owned properties. No TCs would become Grey Wolves and beat up GCs caught unarmed and on the 'wrong side' of Bananiot's border. The TCs are innocent lambs who have done nothing wrong.

- I'm not blaming collectively; but for once, let's stop pretending the TCs are passive spectators!

Actually you do. Just like the "opposite side" says you killed us, you genocide us and all those nonsense

[Pyrpolizer]

Pyrplizer

put yourself in their shoes humanist.Poor people that had no other choice.
Beleive me Bananiot's friend are not taking him for a ride. I don't know his friends actually, but I ve met too many other Kibrislis that are he describes.

Pyrpolizer

I am wearing the other shoe.

They do have a choice and I think the more we are trying to be politically correct the worse the situation is getting.

I actually have no problem with a solution where settlers get to stay. But to stay as Cypriots not as Turks voting for Turkey but Cypriots voting for Cyprus and having Cyprus' interests at heart. Thats how open minded and liberal I am in my views. But the TC's and the leadership they have chosen in clearly not only adding to tension but it is also detrimental to all Cypriots including settlers.

They also have a choice and they actually have more choice than a GC refugee.

OK let's check that choice: Suppose a young Kibrisli about your age and your own proffession-social worker who wants to move to the free areas like you said: Suppose he is from one of the major TC villages say Kofinou. All kibrisli houses there are occupied by refugees.He goes to rent a house for 6 months to claim his own back.Tries for a job nothing. loses his savings on rent and still cannot get his house back. He does part time jobs. Moves his family to the free areas.Nobody knows Greek. All unemployed. No Turkish school for the children....
Easy you said? Yes everything easy.....

[Pyrpolizer]

Here are the people you represent, and you expect us to live with these people. Shish, remind me who needs the guarantees here.

In the occupied area of Cyprus there have been repeated clashes between the Grey Wolves and Kurdish students and the latest brawl on Friday it has been reported that Grey Wolves stabbed a Kurdish student who has since been hospitalized in occupied Cyprus.

According to the Turkish Cypriot press, a group of Kurdish students gathered outside the hospital demanding to visit the injured.

The newspaper “Star Kibris” devoted its current front page-to-Grey Wolves fighting Kurds in the occupied territories and calls on pseudo regime to take appropriate measures.

Grey Wolves is a Turkish ultra-nationalist neo-fascist youth organization. It is accused of terrorism.

http://www.parikiaki.com/archives/7816/ ... -c10001405

And he has the cheek to call us fascists, bloody hell.

How do you see members of Hrysi Avgi (golden dawn) or of ELAM B25?
I will not judge you by your view, so don't try to be nice, just answer honestly.
I need your reply to explain you the situation regarding the Grey wolves.

Pyro, I don't care how you or anyone elses judges me, I have my views and you yours. groups like XA and ELAM are created when the people feel let down by their government to control the illegal immgrants and immgrants in general. As times get harder, these Immgrants who come to a country with nothing can only turn to crime to survive. However bad the conditions they live and work in, it is 100 times better than they had in the own country otherwise they would not move.

I don't condone the random immgrant beating up, but I can understand where they are coming from. XA got an unprecedented vote yesterday, just ask why? They had about 7% when on 2009 they had a mere 0.29%. This is very telling. It is a break down of society and some people fell that something needs to be done.

Other than that, I don't know what you are expecting to hear from me.

I started this thread in retaliation to Bananiots onslaught of accusations about how shit we GCs are, fascists, cretins, rascists and any other expletive he has used on us. The very people he mingles with where he thinks the sun shine out of their arse are the same people supporting these Grey wolves. And he complains about us.
As for meeting his mates, yeah ok, bring on the shit stirrer propoganda spread Baycrap boy, or his Aussi boy Birkturk, who expects us to kneel down and kiss his feet and beg forgiveness for all our faults, or VP who doesn't want his children have Greek spoken around then or Mr Frog who's definition of equal is 82=18, or any of the others, but hey I guess you get my point.

Just litening to these guys make me so mad and then we have Bananiot on the top beating us with his self righteous BS.

Hade, you get me drift Pyro.

Long post but I think I got the point that will give you a straight answer. Look at the red part. The Grey wolves started with the name "idealists something". They had their ideals. They evolved to ultra nationalists and murderers based on those "ideals". They do have millions of members in all Turcic nations...

What gives them silent widespread acceptance though are those like you who don't condone their "random" violent actions, but know where they are coming from.

[Pyrpolizer]

I wonder if Pyro can explain to us who democratically elected the Grey Wolves?

(Since he has a problem with GD and has the cheek to compare chalk and cheese.)

Those who don't condone their "random" acts of violence but know where they are coming from, and try to excuse it

[Pyrpolizer]

bananiot, your mates are taking you for a ride. For if they were peaceful people they would have done the right thing, move out of te refugee home, seek assistance from the RoC and build their home on their block of land in the free areas. Unless of course they were originally from the now occupied area of Cyprus.

Put yourself in their shoes humanist.Poor people that had no other choice.
Beleive me Bananiot's friend are not taking him for a ride. I don't know his friends actually, but I ve met too many other Kibrislis that are he describes.

Bananiot is a partitionist, since he supported the partitionist AP in 2004. Are you a partitionist too? Let's have it.

Yes I m Nicos Anastasiades who wants double Enosis. Do you want me to throw you an ashtray on your head?

[Lordo]

bananiot, your mates are taking you for a ride. For if they were peaceful people they would have done the right thing, move out of te refugee home, seek assistance from the RoC and build their home on their block of land in the free areas. Unless of course they were originally from the now occupied area of Cyprus.

When do you propose they moved to the free areas? maybe just after the 16 day old baby was shot in the head by your heroes?
Have you tried claiming your land from the RoC? At least in the north you have the IPC you can apply to, what have the TCs got?

[Pyrpolizer]

bananiot, your mates are taking you for a ride. For if they were peaceful people they would have done the right thing, move out of te refugee home, seek assistance from the RoC and build their home on their block of land in the free areas. Unless of course they were originally from the now occupied area of Cyprus.

When do you propose they moved to the free areas? maybe just after the 16 day old baby was shot in the head by your heroes?
Have you tried claiming your land from the RoC? At least in the north you have the IPC you can apply to, what have the TCs got?

Do you mean before Denktash and he Co has fixed the scene or after? Go ask the Kibrisli photographer who was FORDED to shoot the FAQUE pictures, for stupid people like you.

[Lordo]

bananiot, your mates are taking you for a ride. For if they were peaceful people they would have done the right thing, move out of te refugee home, seek assistance from the RoC and build their home on their block of land in the free areas. Unless of course they were originally from the now occupied area of Cyprus.

When do you propose they moved to the free areas? maybe just after the 16 day old baby was shot in the head by your heroes?
Have you tried claiming your land from the RoC? At least in the north you have the IPC you can apply to, what have the TCs got?

Do you mean before Denktash and he Co has fixed the scene or after? Go ask the Kibrisli photographer who was FORDED to shoot the FAQUE pictures, for stupid people like you.

Fake pictures? you mean the graves of Murataga and Atlilar and Sandallilar were not real, or do you mean the picture of the dead children in the bath were not real either.

Stupidity is your trade mark my friend. But I did not realise you were an asshole to boot.