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[Bananiot]

I take it we have established beyond doubt that the bases do not have an EEZ nor would the A. Plan give them one. Can you just imagine if it were so? Papadopoulos would have used it as his central point when asking for a vociferous "no" in his address to the people prior to the referendum. It is a pity all these layers in here have not been able to interpret properly a simple paragraph. Their only excuse may be "because they have an ulterior motive".

Just to get to know how these lies were spread and continue to be spread so many years after the referendum, it might be worth taking a look at how it came about. Initially, it was just a rumour but on April 24 2004, "SIGMA" started it's main news bulletin at 20:20 with a bombshell exclusive that the Brits conspired to steal our continental shelf and what lies under. The economist Costas Mavrides was responsible for the revelation. The supporters of the "no" vote did not play in an even field, as you can see.

[Piratis]

Can you just imagine if it were so? Papadopoulos would have used it as his central point when asking for a vociferous "no" in his address to the people prior to the referendum.

You must be kidding. The Annan plan would officially create a Turkish State on the north part of Cyprus, would legalize ethnic cleansing and human rights violations, would dissolve democracy and give the puppets of Turkey the power to block anything the Cypriots would want for their own island etc. I don't know what is the issue with the bases and the EEZ, but even if there was such an issue and Papadopoulos brought it up back then most people would say "What the hell is this EEZ?". Most people learned about EEZ in the last couple of years. Back then it was not even an issue for the vast majority of people.

That is like proposing to somebody to accept to be executed by being shot right through the heart, then have his head cut off, and then have his little toe cut off. And now we are discussing if cutting the toe off was part of the proposal or not. Why would it matter?

[B25]

Bananiot, you can stop foaming at the mouth, the overall plan was terribly flawed and heavily biased in turkeys favour. Thats why it was rejected. Your continued crusade to try and prove this Brit/EEZ was afake, has just highlight what a scumbag you really are. Not that we didn't already know that.

Get it through your thick head, had we accpeted the AP, Cyprus would be a turkish statelet and we would be slaves again to the ottomans and the British. if thats what you want you can bugger off to turkey or the UK, here in Cyprus, we want our freedom and future. If all else fails, then at least we will retain, develop and move forward with what we have and the northern side will remain in isolation for a later date. We will not sign it off, it will just remain pending until such time that we can liberate it. The would does not stand still.
Have they bestowed a title upon you on the other side for your services, is Effendi, or Maharaj, or Sultan?

[loyalcypriot10]

Any idea when you will get round to liberating the North? Will you be doing this by yourself?
Do you expect the Turks to wait patiently for genarations whilst your liberation plans are being formulated?

[B25]

Any idea when you will get round to liberating the North? Will you be doing this by yourself?
Do you expect the Turks to wait patiently for genarations whilst your liberation plans are being formulated?

Anything is possible the future is unknown. As for a time scale, I said 'pending'. Liberation comes in many forms, as long as we don't sign it away, we have a chance, however small, if we sign we are *ucked. Does that answer you?

[Piratis]

Any idea when you will get round to liberating the North? Will you be doing this by yourself?
Do you expect the Turks to wait patiently for genarations whilst your liberation plans are being formulated?

The "when" is something we don't know. However as long as we remain determined to take back our lands it will be just a matter of time. It could be in 10 years or it could be in a 100. Obviously we will not be doing this ourselves. We will patiently wait until Turkey finds itself in the losing side of a greater war and then we will claim our lands back. You can be certain that noth Cyprus would be the first territory that Turkey will lose from such a war since Turkey has no rights over any part of Cyprus. However Turkey might lose more than that, Kurdistan for example.

The Turks will not "wait patiently". They will do everything they can to get the pseudo state recognized, but they will fail. At most recognition will come from some countries which are good friends with Turkey, but not from the UN. Therefore the north part of Cyprus will officially remain part of the Republic of Cyprus, which might not mean much now, but it will mean everything when the balance of power will change.

If we had the option of an acceptable solution (even based on federation) now, then we would have taken it. However no such option exists and the only alternative option to status quo is something which is much worst, and which will therefore never be accepted.

[MR-from-NG]

DONT FORGET CONSTANTINOPLE TOO

[B25]

DONT FORGET CONSTANTINOPLE TOO

Different place, different era.

Chalk and cheese.

You are obviously stuck in the old Ottoman era gardash. In time, in time. We will wait patiently, as long as we don't sign we have a chance.

[Sotos]

DONT FORGET CONSTANTINOPLE TOO

We don't

[MR-from-NG]

DONT FORGET CONSTANTINOPLE TOO

Different place, different era.

Chalk and cheese.

You are obviously stuck in the old Ottoman era gardash. In time, in time. We will wait patiently, as long as we don't sign we have a chance.

B25, gardashcigim, why not make this easier on all concerned and accept us as equal Cypriots with equal rights and live side by side in harmony like gardashcik? Nobody I know ever make reference to the ottoman era, it is people like Piratis, Sotos and the rest of usual suspects that are stuck in that era. Have a look at some of these people's past posts, you will see 1571 and ottoman repeatedly mentioned.

When you and the rest stop thinking of us as Turks and ottoman remnants and accept us as Cypriots just like yourself then we will have peace and live like gardash.