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[Bananiot]

Today's "Politis" first page ... and, where did you see a comparison Nikitas? Loucaides is a respected jurist, you say, and this is exactly what I mean. Forget about Droushiotis, he is an easy target, what do you say about Loucaides? Alecos Markides, another respected lawyer, told exactly the same thing on the telly, a few weeks ago. Enough with your lies, we have had enough.

[wyoming cowboy]

".....In short, in exchange for relinquishing 45 square miles of base (land) territory, the
UK government could appoint a person who was solely charged to delimit its base
(sea) territory, and over whose final ruling, whatever that might be, the Cypriot
government could not appeal in any international tribunal or refer the matter to an
independent mediator or arbitrator. Land square miles would have been returned,
presented as a grand act of post-colonial generosity, and instead sea square miles
would have been seized in technical, non-publicized fashion, authorized through
annexed details of the UN Plan settling the inter-ethnic conflict in Cyprus.
In addition, the UK would have relinquished land territory in which the Cypriot
population lived and worked, that is to say, territory whose administration entailed
increasing levels of burden and responsibility, not only towards the local population
but also towards a variety of EU and Council of Europe agencies. The Additional
Protocol annexed to the Annan Plan would have also reconfirmed the sovereign legal
status of the bases (a status that remains contestable under the law of treaties due to
the coercive character of the 1960 Treaty of Establishment, which had to be agreed
upon in exchange for independence) by giving the base regime and its sea extensions
the highest possible authorization and legitimation in the form of local referenda.
This would have constituted the final act in the complex power game that is the long
mile of empire. Paradoxically, had both sides voted “yes” in the recent referenda
(and there were other, good reasons for doing so), Cypriots would have boasted a
reunified island inside the EU whilst inadvertently sealing a more subtle division
that they learned to invariably live with – sometimes accepting, sometimes
protesting, sometimes exploiting – on a daily basis."


Read the article Bananiot, In 1960, the Brits wanted a waterway to and from the sba's, in Annan they included the words, territorial waters adjacent to the sba's.....ask yourself, why the change?

[Don Kelley]

EOKA is still around today.

They all post on here !

They used to hide behind women and children in the past when they shot british soldiers in the back, now they hide behind a keyboard.

[Bananiot]

You are asking easy to answer questions cowboy. In 2004 the Brits would have given back a large chunk of the Bases and in Dekelia, they needed a water corridor to link the two pieces of the base, since the middle part would have been returned. My God, so much blindness, who would have thought?

[Bananiot]

This is a view of a TC nationalist who writes regularly in Facebook.

Ozkan Hasan: Seriously folk’s, unification would have been nothing more than a gamble for us and what a gamble that would have been! Thanks to Papadopoulos for having saved us from what could have turned out to be the biggest disaster for Turkish Cypriot’s so far. I very much doubt if Turkey would have ever come to our rescue again, our relationship is not what it used to be and our flag is not what it used to be.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/9764319 ... p_activity

[Pyrpolizer]

Today's "Politis" first page ... and, where did you see a comparison Nikitas? Loucaides is a respected jurist, you say, and this is exactly what I mean. Forget about Droushiotis, he is an easy target, what do you say about Loucaides? Alecos Markides, another respected lawyer, told exactly the same thing on the telly, a few weeks ago. Enough with your lies, we have had enough.

Where exactly on the first page? I don;t see anything like that on the online edition

[Bananiot]

Try the pdf edition. It begins on the front page and then pages 4 and 5.

[Bananiot]

"On the 9th of May 2004, "Ethnos", a Greek daily, carried a two page report titled "How they formed the Federation of interests" in which ex President George Vasiliou worked with David Hanney to present Britain with extra privileges for the bases that gave Britain sovereign rights, continental shelf and EEZ. The zone covers the whole of the sea area of Cyprus at a radius of 230 miles, right up to the coast of Turkey, according to the report. The next day all hell broke loose and the issue was raised by all the tv stations and it was taken up in parliament by Perdikis and Prodromou who said the infamous "now we clearly see some things that were hidden behind the Annan Plan".

On the next day, "Ethnos" went back on its writings and expressed sincere apologies to Vasiliou. However, the Cypriot mass media went on as though the original article was true. Since then and until today, the Brits would have laid their hands on our hydrocarbons, according to these liars or uninformed people to say the least.

[B25]

This is a view of a TC nationalist who writes regularly in Facebook.

Ozkan Hasan: Seriously folk’s, unification would have been nothing more than a gamble for us and what a gamble that would have been! Thanks to Papadopoulos for having saved us from what could have turned out to be the biggest disaster for Turkish Cypriot’s so far. I very much doubt if Turkey would have ever come to our rescue again, our relationship is not what it used to be and our flag is not what it used to be.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/9764319 ... p_activity

I bet you didn't appreciate his reply to you, did it hurt, upset you, turk boy?. Obviously we can now see where you get your anti-GC BS from.

What a loser, you couldn't even state you village real name in greek, but you had to give the pseudo turkish equivilent, yalk about being an arse kisser, the proof is there. Oh and btw, do you have proof that GC youths set fire to the mosque? If so you had better share it, since you made to accusation on that site.

[Pyrpolizer]

"On the 9th of May 2004, "Ethnos", a Greek daily, carried a two page report titled "How they formed the Federation of interests" in which ex President George Vasiliou worked with David Hanney to present Britain with extra privileges for the bases that gave Britain sovereign rights, continental shelf and EEZ. The zone covers the whole of the sea area of Cyprus at a radius of 230 miles, right up to the coast of Turkey, according to the report. The next day all hell broke loose and the issue was raised by all the tv stations and it was taken up in parliament by Perdikis and Prodromou who said the infamous "now we clearly see some things that were hidden behind the Annan Plan".

On the next day, "Ethnos" went back on its writings and expressed sincere apologies to Vasiliou. However, the Cypriot mass media went on as though the original article was true. Since then and until today, the Brits would have laid their hands on our hydrocarbons, according to these liars or uninformed people to say the least.

That was AFTER the referendum Bananiot, so it made no difference whatsoever to the result.
On the matter of the British Bases and their continental shelf or whatever, things would be easier if there was a map in the Anan Plan on what the whole case would be.Like Nikitas said all those ambiguities could of have costed us dearly if the Anan Plan was accepted. Remember the ambiguity in the 1960 agreements regarding the term "take action " that Turkey translated as "invade and split the island".
The Anan Plan was rejected for too many OTHER SERIOUS REASONS, starting from the clear theft of our properties.
The ambiguity and negative propaganda regarding the continental shelf played very little or no role to peoples minds imo