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[garbitsch]

He was also savior of Turkish nation, who were under the occupation of Greeks, Brits, Frenchmen, Italians, Armenians and Russians. He abolished a corrupt and decaying Ottoman Empire and created a modern secular Turkish Republic. Just because he didnt let you guys to invade much of the Western Anatolia, this doesn't make him a bad person. He was not a super hero for god's sake, but still Turkish nation owes him too much.

[Main_Source]

What occupation!? Turkey sided with the Germans in WW1!! what do you think would happen....and how can an occupier complain about being occupied...the Turkish state is built on invading foreign lands.

Besides, how could Greeks invade something that was there's to begin with? When are you going to relaise this!? There was no Turkish state then, only the Ottoman Empire which was occupying Greek land for 300-400 of years. That part of Asia Minor played a big significance in the history of our people and our religion and it was stolen by the land / blood hungrey Ottoman Turks...why should we have not tried to get it back....seeing as though there was no Turkish state.

Besides, maybe the turkish nation owes him a lot...but he certainly made enemies with a lot of his neighbours...even though most Turks are brainwashed into thinking that Turkey was in the right for each of these conflicts.

[garbitsch]

If you keep thinking in that way, then in your eyes Turkish state has no legitimacy since it was founded on the lands that once belonged to Greeks, Armenians etc. Well done MS, well done. I applaud you.

p.s: Only the Turks called their empire "Ottoman", the west kept calling them "Turkey". I suggest you to go to Notting Hill Market, where they sell old world maps and in all of them they talk about Turkey, not Ottoman Empire. I know it would be really difficult to see Greek Macedonia as part of "Turkey".

[2fan]

What occupation!? Turkey sided with the Germans in WW1!! what do you think would happen....and how can an occupier complain about being occupied...the Turkish state is built on invading foreign lands.

Besides, how could Greeks invade something that was there's to begin with? When are you going to relaise this!? There was no Turkish state then, only the Ottoman Empire which was occupying Greek land for 300-400 of years. That part of Asia Minor played a big significance in the history of our people and our religion and it was stolen by the land / blood hungrey Ottoman Turks...why should we have not tried to get it back....seeing as though there was no Turkish state.

Besides, maybe the turkish nation owes him a lot...but he certainly made enemies with a lot of his neighbours...even though most Turks are brainwashed into thinking that Turkey was in the right for each of these conflicts.

Sourcey,

It's very obvious that you are suffering from bitchslap syndrome. I know it's not easy for you to face up to the fact that you got your ass kicked twice in a century. I think we know who the brainwashed sheep are in this forum. It ain't the Turks. I suggest you read some objective books about history.

[Main_Source]

The Ottoman Empire called for a military jihad against France, Russia and Great Britain in November 1914. How did this affect subsequent Allied campaigns in the Middle East? David Woodward charts the demise of an empire and a dramatic shift in the region's balance of power.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/war/wwone/ ... t_01.shtml

Garbitsch...look, the first website I looked at and in WW1, the Turkish forces were a part of the Ottoman Empire...there was NO Turkey then.
...and Greeks had every right to claim back there heritage, as western Asia Minor was under the Ottoman Empire. With your argument, its like saying Indian tribes men had no right to rule India because it was under the British Empire...or huge parts of Africa should have stayed under rule of Europeans. Do you not think Africans should have the right to rule Africa?

Sourcey,

It's very obvious that you are suffering from bitchslap syndrome. I know it's not easy for you to face up to the fact that you got your ass kicked twice in a century. I think we know who the brainwashed sheep are in this forum. It ain't the Turks. I suggest you read some objective books about history.

At least the real Turk is coming out in you 2fan...reality is staring you right in the face and you have nothing to do but brag about Turkish greed. At least your being yourself and not playing the poor Turkish victim as usual.

..and yes we DO know who the brainwashed sheep ae in this forum...infact, go ask an Arab, or an Armenian, or a Kurd or any other person who's decendants have come into conflict with Turks. Its not only Greeks who are supposed to not like Turks. I know Arabs who wont even step into a Turkish kebab house....we all know how much of a fucked up brainwashed nationalistic people you are...

Like Fat Larry's Band said, you better "Act Like You Know"...before you make a bigger fool of yourself to the world.

and if you wanna talk about Bitch Slapping, id be hapy to give you an example...just as long as you wash yourself first...cos we know you guys smell like your allergic to soap and water or something.

[garbitsch]

Main Source and his racist comments. I give credit to VP now...

[Main_Source]

oh come on...I know you can give me more of reply then that.

..and did you expect me to sit back and take crap from some confused Turkish Texan?

[bg_turk]

What occupation!? Turkey sided with the Germans in WW1!! what do you think would happen....and how can an occupier complain about being occupied...the Turkish state is built on invading foreign lands.

Besides, how could Greeks invade something that was there's to begin with? When are you going to relaise this!? There was no Turkish state then, only the Ottoman Empire which was occupying Greek land for 300-400 of years. That part of Asia Minor played a big significance in the history of our people and our religion and it was stolen by the land / blood hungrey Ottoman Turks...why should we have not tried to get it back....seeing as though there was no Turkish state.

Besides, maybe the turkish nation owes him a lot...but he certainly made enemies with a lot of his neighbours...even though most Turks are brainwashed into thinking that Turkey was in the right for each of these conflicts.

Main_Source,

In fact, greeks should be grateful to Ataturk. This "alcoholic" had the chance to crush greece after the defeat of the greek army in asia minor and he didn't have to stop at the Maritsa/Mericleri river. He could have taken not only east thrace, but west thrace too, and liberated his home town of Thessaloniki from greek yoke. But this "alcoholic" had a vision of peace, and he knew where to stop, he was not enchanted by some megalo ideas and hatred as some greeks of the time.

[Viewpoint]

Main_Source the prime example on display for all Turkish Cypriots to take note of and decide on just who and what mentality they would be banking their future on. Yet again you vomit the venom from within your brain and heart for all to see. Well done.

[Main_Source]

Main_Source,

In fact, greeks should be grateful to Ataturk. This "alcoholic" had the chance to crush greece after the defeat of the greek army in asia minor and he didn't have to stop at the Maritsa/Mericleri river. He could have taken not only east thrace, but west thrace too, and liberated his home town of Thessaloniki from greek yoke. But this "alcoholic" had a vision of peace, and he knew where to stop, he was not enchanted by some megalo ideas and hatred as some greeks of the time.

lol vision of peace!? He set the standards for your country and look at it today. Run by the military, has terrible human rights violations, a bad record against ethnic minorities and injected ignorance in the mind of his people. As for 'Greek Yoke'...thats a nice play with words...ut you cant hide the fact that we as a people inhabited that area and lived in that area before the Turks came...so you can play with whatever words that you want but your only kidding yourself. Besides, your setting the example of Turkish nationalistic land-greed again...by saying "Oh you should be grateful we didnt invade the other Greek lands".

Main_Source the prime example on display for all Turkish Cypriots to take note of and decide on just who and what mentality they would be banking their future on. Yet again you vomit the venom from within your brain and heart for all to see. Well done.

...and you my sneaky little weasal friend ( I use friend in the loosest of terms)..What venom are you talking about? Im I calling for the death of all Turks? Am I calling for Turks to be kicked out of their homes (like you do with Greeks)...Im giving my point of view on history and showing you some harsh realities which you refuse to even consider.

We all know your real agenda VP, so carry on with your wordplay..its very ammusing at times.