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[newgeneration]

That's right GIG. There are no settlers/migrants in the South. Not a single one!

[Me Ed]

Migration allowed in the South, not in the North. Says it all.

Do you not think Human Rights come into play in removing people from their homes of 50 years. I cannot see this happening.

What happened in the occupied areas was an illegal population transfer and is ratified as such by the international community by United Nations resolutions.

As for the human rights of Turkish settlers, when the Cypriots return to their rightful homes, they can seek compensation and relocation back to Turkish soil from the Government of Turkey as what they have done contravenes international law.

As for foreign investors like the Orams, Turkey will have to compensate them too.

[Jerry]

Me Ed migration happens all over the world. Even South Cyprus is not immune.

Please see the figures below of migrants below taken in 2007.


Citizens of the former Soviet Republic: 30,000

Christians who fled Lebanon: 15,000 - 20,000

Immigrants from Greece: 100,000

Asylum seeker Kurds: 2,500 - 3,000

Asylum seeker citizens from third countries: 9,500

Total of "Greek settlers in Cyprus": approximately 230,000

You forgot the Brits.

Perhaps you can give a source for your figure of 100,000 immigrants from Greece.

EU citizens have the legal right to settle in Cyprus. Most of the Pontians you refer to are Greek passport holders having left Turkey for safety in Greece. The majority of immigrants to the ROC will not gain citizenship and they certainly were not induced to move to the island with the promise of free property as in the north. The ROC has a legal obligation to asylum seekers, it does not encourage them to seek asylum on the island.

As you know many, if not most, of the settlers in the north have been offered citizenship of the illegal "state". Turkey has temporarily conquered the north of Cyprus and is illegally changing its demography, this cannot be said for the ROC
http://www.cablegatesearch.net/cable.ph ... NICOSIA682

[kimon07]

This is a battle between the North and South which comes down to wanting to increase thier respective populations, on paper ... with the purpose of using these numbers as a negotiating tool over the distribution of land.

There are no North and South. Just the RoC and the Terrorist (or Turanic) Regime of North Cyprus.

To try and represent both sides of the arguement, recently the South has rejected use of the TC kimlik card to cross the border.

TC kimlik? Is that edible? Maybe a new anatolian delicacy of some sort?

[kimon07]

That's right GIG. There are no settlers/migrants in the South. Not a single one!

No there are not (if you refer to Europeans citizens that is). EU citizens can legally and freely reside in any EU member country. The forcible transfer and settlement in EU territory of non EU Anatolian settlers, against the laws of the particular EU country and against the will of its citizens, is a violation of the international law, the EU laws and regulations, a crime against humanity and ethnic cleansing against the locals.

Besides, what the sole legitimate government of Cyprus permits to be done in its sovereign territory with the consent of the citizens of the RoC is none of the business of any non EU (third) country like Turkey and its puppets. Don't act like you and what you call a "state" of yours are equal because you are not. Your "state" is non existent and illegal, and therefore, everything it does is illegal.Even imposing taxes on the TCs is illegal. You will become equal only when you decide to become, again, law abiding citizens of the RoC and denounce your puppet leaders.

[GreekIslandGirl]

NG.
You forgot to mention the lovely Pontians who live in Paphos.

Really obnoxious!

They can be as 'obnoxious' to you as they like (you sound like a disgusting alien) and they still have more rights to be here than you. Perhaps you'd like to continue the Genocide the Turks started upon them only a few decades ago? Just like Turks, you certainly seem intent on following Greeks around and ethnically cleansing them from every bit of land they ever inhabited on this earth.

[bill cobbett]

That's right GIG. There are no settlers/migrants in the South. Not a single one!

No there are not (if you refer to Europeans citizens that is). EU citizens can legally and freely reside in any EU member country. The forcible transfer and settlement in EU territory of non EU Anatolian settlers, against the laws of the particular EU country and against the will of its citizens, is a violation of the international law, the EU laws and regulations, a crime against humanity and ethnic cleansing against the locals.

Besides, what the sole legitimate government of Cyprus permits to be done in its sovereign territory with the consent of the citizens of the RoC is none of the business of any non EU (third) country like Turkey and its puppets. Don't act like you and what you call a "state" of yours are equal because you are not. Your "state" is non existent and illegal, and therefore, everything it does is illegal.Even imposing taxes on the TCs is illegal. You will become equal only when you decide to become, again, law abiding citizens of the RoC and denounce your puppet leaders.

Yes, a reminder as to Chapter and Verse of the relevant International Law... and it's the 4th Geneva Convention that makes it a War Crime for an Occupying Power to move Illegal Settlers in to a territory under occupation whether by deliberate action or by inaction, by failing to act to stop the movement. Either way Turkey is guilty.

The same Convention also makes it War Crimes for the Occupying Power to exploit/pinch any natural resources or to force the indigenous population out.

[Hermes]

Turkish Cypriots isolated, stripped of their rights and embargoed by Turkey:

The regime is accused of imposing a new isolation on the Turkish Cypriots

Under the title “’A new isolation’”, Turkish Cypriot daily Kibris newspaper (27.04.12) reports that Mustafa Damdelen, chairman of the “Cyprus EU Association”, has said that the prohibition imposed by the breakaway regime to the Turkish Cypriots for using the passport of the Republic of Cyprus when they travel abroad, is a restriction of their rights deriving from the 1960 agreements. In a statement issued yesterday, Damdelen noted that this is tantamount to imposing a new isolation on the Turkish Cypriots.

He noted: “This is an initiative to deprive the Turkish Cypriot community of their partnership rights in the Republic of Cyprus of 1960 by restricting their freedom of travelling, and it is extremely wrong”.

The breakaway regime had decided that the “civil servants” and the persons, who travel abroad for participating in sports or cultural activities, will not be financed by the “state”, in case they use any passport other than those of Turkey and the “TRNC”.

Damdelen noted that the Turkish Cypriots, who are politically equal partners of the Republic of Cyprus, have every natural right to benefit from all the rights provided by the Republic of Cyprus and their EU citizenship. He, inter alia, said: “The continuation of the inter-communal talks today, by two community leaders of equal status and the fact that we will be politically equal in a federal solution that will be found is based on the 1960 rights…Actually what is not said in the government’s decision, is the position that the Republic of Cyprus does not exist and it seems that wrong policies, such as not allowing the use of the rights related to this position, which are contrary to the realities, are reflected [in the decision]…The policy of both Turkey and the TRNC officials to ignore the Republic of Cyprus is wrong and inconsistency in the international policy…”

http://www.moi.gov.cy/moi/pio/pio.nsf/A ... enDocument

[GreekIslandGirl]

He noted: “This is an initiative to deprive the Turkish Cypriot community of their partnership rights in the Republic of Cyprus of 1960 by restricting their freedom of travelling, and it is extremely wrong”.

Fine - let's all stop pretending the TCs had any right to a community "partnership". And that Turkey ever had any right to "intervene" as a Guarantor. Let's see this for what it is. Living under an illegal, foreign occupation.

[Pyrpolizer]

Me Ed migration happens all over the world. Even South Cyprus is not immune.

Please see the figures below of migrants below taken in 2007.


Citizens of the former Soviet Republic: 30,000

Christians who fled Lebanon: 15,000 - 20,000

Immigrants from Greece: 100,000

Asylum seeker Kurds: 2,500 - 3,000

Asylum seeker citizens from third countries: 9,500

Total of "Greek settlers in Cyprus": approximately 230,000

LOL where from did you get these imaginary numbers???