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EOKA Terrorism & the TMT in the 50's and 60's - The Truth

Postby newgeneration » Thu Apr 19, 2012 10:02 pm

A major bone of contention that exists today between Cypriots, and contributes to the lack of progress in understanding and solving the Cyprus problem, is the differing and contradictory accounts of the events of the early 1960's.

I have previously cited several books and documentaries to support my belief that TC's were killed, terrorised and forced to flee from their homes by the EOKA movement. However I accept some say that books and documentaries are not 'factual' sources.

Therefore this thread aims to provide factual sources of this period in time, of these events, and ultimately to find the truth.

Also previously claimed is that the TC's wanted partition from as far back as the 1950's. I invite all to cite their sources here and discuss.

I will begin by citing the PRIO Centre as a source which states TC's had to flee from their homes in '63 and '64. It also contains a census per village, showing both the TC and GC population in each. Please see www.prio-cyprus-displacement.net.

Why did the TC's have to flee their homes?
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Re: EOKA Terrorism & the TMT in the 50's and 60's - The Trut

Postby GreekIslandGirl » Thu Apr 19, 2012 10:03 pm

You have been dishonest. :roll:

Avoided this:

http://www.britishpathe.com/video/cypri ... ing-street
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Re: EOKA Terrorism & the TMT in the 50's and 60's - The Trut

Postby GreekIslandGirl » Thu Apr 19, 2012 10:07 pm

Please, all GCs --- let this newcomer address at least ONE issue before we let her/him/it move on ...



http://www.britishpathe.com/video/cypri ... ing-street
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Re: EOKA Terrorism & the TMT in the 50's and 60's - The Trut

Postby B25 » Thu Apr 19, 2012 10:19 pm

Excellent link GIG, that just sume up the CP. I wonder what the defeatist / traitors on here think of all that Takism, partition, Cyprus is Turkish BS.

And they have the cheek to blame EOKA, Makarios and even Griva FFS.
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Re: EOKA Terrorism & the TMT in the 50's and 60's - The Trut

Postby Jerry » Thu Apr 19, 2012 10:27 pm

newgeneration wrote:A major bone of contention that exists today between Cypriots, and contributes to the lack of progress in understanding and solving the Cyprus problem, is the differing and contradictory accounts of the events of the early 1960's.

I have previously cited several books and documentaries to support my belief that TC's were killed, terrorised and forced to flee from their homes by the EOKA movement. However I accept some say that books and documentaries are not 'factual' sources.

Therefore this thread aims to provide factual sources of this period in time, of these events, and ultimately to find the truth.

Also previously claimed is that the TC's wanted partition from as far back as the 1950's. I invite all to cite their sources here and discuss.

I will begin by citing the PRIO Centre as a source which states TC's had to flee from their homes in '63 and '64. It also contains a census per village, showing both the TC and GC population in each. Please see http://www.prio-cyprus-displacement.net.

Why did the TC's have to flee their homes?


Probably because they bit off more than they could chew in 1958. Although some may claim they wanted to become "victims" to gain Turkish intervention - Hey! guess what happened in 1974?

Same ref as in other thread. http://dosfan.lib.uic.edu/ERC/frus/frus ... prus2.html
It's all there, learn the truth.
"Had interview Deputy Governor Sinclair today regarding tragic events of last three days./1/ He gave me details new severe emergency regulations enumerated Contel 388./2/ Said Turk leaders here have been extremely uncooperative, refusing government's requests urge restraint and instead, with utter cynicism, have repeated claim that Greek bomb at information center provoked Turk community. I pointed out admission Turk responsibility for later killings in words Kuchuk at Istanbul, who said Turk patriots "marched to Greek quarter killing two and wounding five" in retribution. Sinclair said all evidence, including condition interior building pointed to "planned" operation, and while government unable accuse openly, had informed press and wire services "for guidance" that incident apparently not Greek inspired."
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Re: EOKA Terrorism & the TMT in the 50's and 60's - The Trut

Postby GreekIslandGirl » Thu Apr 19, 2012 10:47 pm

GreekIslandGirl wrote:You have been dishonest. :roll:

Avoided this:

http://www.britishpathe.com/video/cypri ... ing-street


Are you schooled to address this yet?

We had not even won independence yet and the Turks were ready to grab ...
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Re: EOKA Terrorism & the TMT in the 50's and 60's - The Trut

Postby newgeneration » Thu Apr 19, 2012 10:50 pm

I will watch it and address it. Thank you for the link.
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Re: EOKA Terrorism & the TMT in the 50's and 60's - The Trut

Postby newgeneration » Fri Apr 20, 2012 12:14 am

Please see my links below, source: Cyprus and the Governorship of Sir Ronald Storrs: The Causes of the 1931 Crisis, by G.S. Georghallides (Cyprus Research Centre, 1985.

This, and the exempt I will post next explain the TC demonstration on Downing Street, the TC reaction to the campaign for Enosis, or unification with Greece.

The Debate on Enosis: 1929

Greek Cypriots often remind their listeners that the movement to join Greece began much earlier than the 1950s, and in fact that is true. Sentiment for enosis was evident early in the twentieth century, and became the subject of continuous discussion. In this excerpt from his history of the 1931 confrontation with Britain over Cyprus= political status, G. S. Georghallides provides a glimpse of the nature of the debate over the island=s fate among Greek Cypriots. Not only does he provide a vivid picture of the tone and substance of the discourse, he signals how many different views there were - - in sharp contrast to the apparent, and rather rigid, uniformity of opinion characterizing the Greek Cypriot community in the 1950s, enforced by EOKA and the Church. He also indicates how significant the left-wing labor unions were in the politics of the island, another dimension of politics submerged in the conservative fundamentalism that emerged in mid-century. Georghallides is one of Cyprus=s most distinguished and accomplished historians.
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Re: EOKA Terrorism & the TMT in the 50's and 60's - The Trut

Postby newgeneration » Fri Apr 20, 2012 12:16 am

From the same source .... It appears the TC's did not instigate Taksim or Partition. The GC's instigated Enosis or unification with Greece as early as the 1920's.

Turkish Cypriot reaction to the campaign for enosis

It is often alleged that Turkish Cypriots were roused to oppose enosis by the British colonialists, but there was a core of opposition in the Turkish Cypriot community from an early stage. Consider the following excerpt from a speech made by Zekia, a Turkish Cypriot member of the Legislative Council, in 1930.

We vehemently protest against this [pro-enosis] representation as we have always done in the past. We believe that if Cyprus were annexed to Greece there would be no chance of life for the Moslems in Cyprus. We know that the Greeks are in the majority in Cyprus, but there are many other countries in the world similar to Cyprus which are being administered by foreigners in spite of the fact that the majority of the people belong to another race. As is known to you, there is no principle in international law providing for the annexation of every country to the country which is homogeneous to it. Therefore I am surprised that my honorable Greek colleagues feel able to base this claim on international law. It would be possible to benefit the island much more if the question of union were set aside and of all the members of the Council were united in the taking of measures calculated to promote the development and progress of the country . . . . The divergent national feelings and sentiments prevailing in the island would make impossible the administration of justice in the island.
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Re: EOKA Terrorism & the TMT in the 50's and 60's - The Trut

Postby newgeneration » Fri Apr 20, 2012 12:28 am

Also, from the report written by Richard A. Patrick, Political Geography and the Cyprus Conflict, 1963-1971.

Richard A. Patrick, a UNFICYP officer, is cited on the UK government's www.parliament.uk website as a known and reliable source.

It is known that the Greek-Cypriot leaders fully appreciated that the thirteen proposed amendments to the constitution would be unacceptable to Turk-Cypriots, and that their presentation and rejection could precipitate fighting by either side. As early as 1962, Polycarpos Georgadjis, the Minister of the Interior, had warned the officers of his underground army that in the following year President Makarios would propose amendments to the constitution which would be so unacceptable to the Turk-Cypriots that TMT would start fighting. When the amendments were proposed, there was general dismay among many of the leaders of this Greek-Cypriot force that Turk-Cypriots did not rise to the bait. As a result, elements of the Greek-Cypriot police and a number of armed Greek-Cypriot irregulars were attempting to goad TMT into action in December 1963. Had the incident of 21 December not occurred, there can be no doubt that a similar Incident if would have been precipitated by Christmas.
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