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Re: Just '74 Days To Go ...!!!!

Postby Sotos » Tue Jun 19, 2012 12:31 am

Lordo wrote:Not a brave soul in sight.
Will nobody make a single prediction how this event will make a blind bit of difference to the Cypriots?

Just one favourable difference other than an advert for tourism please? Is it too much to ask?


Financially it will be a good advert for tourism. Tourism is a major industry in Cyprus so it will make a big difference. Politically it will make a difference because it will show that the whole world respects Republic of Cyprus as an independent nation and that Turkey has no chance to ever get the pseudo state recognized.
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Re: Just '74 Days To Go ...!!!!

Postby Lordo » Tue Jun 19, 2012 12:37 am

Can we have some figures as to the tourism as was last summer and compare it with this summer?

just for a bit of calibration you understand.

Any other advantages for the Cypriots?
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Re: Just '74 Days To Go ...!!!!

Postby Nikitas » Tue Jun 19, 2012 1:34 am

The EU presidency is largely a ceremonial process. But for Cyprus, especially in the midst of the financial crisis it has added benefits since the host nation will be much more widely covered in the media than in previous presidencies.

The presidency focuses EU attention to the problem. More importantly it reinforces two things vital to Cypriot survival, RoC statehood and EU membership. It gives Cypriot technocrats the chance to show they are as good as the others, ie it enhances national prestige. Thirdly, it puts Cyprus on the map, a minor benefit, but a benefit all the same.

Naturally Turkey, who has a long standing policy of extinguishing Cypriot sovereignty, does not like it. Remember Gul, at the Annan talks, gloating as to how the Annan Plan would do away with Cypriot sovereignty, you could see the sense of victory in his face and body language. Well, now the EU presidency puts that idea to a final rest. Oddly enough now it is the TCs that need RoC statehood to maintain their communal identity more than the GCs. So these are some of the benefits for ALL Cypriots.
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Re: Just '74 Days To Go ...!!!!

Postby repulsewarrior » Tue Jun 19, 2012 1:45 am

...it gives a chance to Cyprus to learn, and to better these abilities.
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Re: Just '74 Days To Go ...!!!!

Postby kimon07 » Tue Jun 19, 2012 7:27 am

humanist wrote:SG of the Arab League in Cyprus on official visit
FAMAGUSTA GAZETTE • Mon, Jun 18, 2012
The Secretary General of the League of Arab States, Nabil el-Araby, will pay an official visit to Cyprus between June 17 and 18, following an invitation by the Minister of Foreign Affairs Erato Kozakou-Marcoullis, in view of the upcoming Cyprus Presidency of the Council of the European Union.

Bilateral relations, current developments in the Middle East and EU–Arab League ties will be on the agenda of talks in Nicosia.

On Monday, a tête-à-tête meeting between Nabil el-Araby and Marcoullis will be followed by extensive consultations between the two delegations. After their meeting, statements will be made to the press.

The Secretary General of the Arab League will be received by President Demetris Christofias and the President of the House of Representatives, Yiannakis Omirou.

The Secretary General of the League of Arab States will depart from Cyprus on Monday evening.



I thought this might be appropriate in this thread


Indeed. Considering that the Turks put many of their hopes on the Arab League for the success of their "Plan B"
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Re: Just '74 Days To Go ...!!!!

Postby kimon07 » Tue Jun 19, 2012 7:41 am

Lordo wrote:Not a brave soul in sight.
Will nobody make a single prediction how this event will make a blind bit of difference to the Cypriots?


Why make predictions? Just about 200 days for the CY presidency to be over and then we will know for sure. Right?
In the meantime, the media all over the world will be filled with reports about the miraculous little island which managed to become an EU member against all odds and pressures and threats and blackmails and is soon to become a major energy player in the East Med. And that 38% of it's territory is illegally occupied by an Anatolian/Muslim third country which, defies the international as well as the European law but, ironically, it begs to become a member. Don't you thing that such reports alone will be very important and helpful to make the Cyprus problem and the Turkish violations widely known?
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Re: Just '74 Days To Go ...!!!!

Postby kimon07 » Tue Jun 19, 2012 7:42 am

Lordo wrote:Can we have some figures as to the tourism as was last summer and compare it with this summer?

Any other advantages for the Cypriots?


See my previous post!
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Re: Just '74 Days To Go ...!!!!

Postby kimon07 » Tue Jun 19, 2012 7:48 am

Lordo wrote:Honestly Bubble, we were all on a High, waiting for this here date in anticipation of this fantastic power bestowed on us and we were about the kick the dreaded Turk where it hurts and suddenly you pop up and wake us up from our dream.


Eh excuse me. Just came back from outer space have you? The Turk was kicked were it hurts a long time ago (2004).

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Re: Just '74 Days To Go ...!!!!

Postby kimon07 » Tue Jun 19, 2012 9:18 am

kimon07 wrote:
Lordo wrote:Not a brave soul in sight.
Will nobody make a single prediction how this event will make a blind bit of difference to the Cypriots?


Why make predictions? Just about 200 days for the CY presidency to be over and then we will know for sure. Right?
In the meantime, the media all over the world will be filled with reports about the miraculous little island which managed to become an EU member against all odds and pressures and threats and blackmails and is soon to become a major energy player in the East Med. .......


Natural gas changes the game in Cyprus
http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/natura ... sCatID=413

When the Turkish Armed Forces (TSK) landed in Cyprus in 1974, it also captured the tourism and entertainment center Varosha, but this Famagusta (Mağusa) region famous for its long beach and hotels was never opened to the access or settlement of Turks. This was a political and strategic decision by Ankara. The aim was to keep this region that was assumed to be very valuable for Greek Cypriots as a bargaining chip that would be ready for exchange when the time for a final and permanent solution in Cyprus came.

For 38 years, whenever the Turkish side met with a Greek Cypriot proposal to open Varosha, which was not related to a final and permanent solution, the answer was always negative with the same thought of keeping Varosha to use at the very end of comprehensive negotiations.

With just a few days left until his country becomes term president of the European Union, Greek Cypriot leader Demetris Christofias proposed via the media the opening of Varosha in exchange for the opening of the Famagusta Port under United Nations supervision so that the north can engage in foreign trade. In terms of the EU though, he proposed that Turkey open its air and naval ports to the Greek Cypriots and, as a natural outcome of this, more than one accession chapter that was blocked would become unblocked during their term presidency.

There is no doubt that this proposal about Varosha will not be accepted in principle because it is not related to the comprehensive and permanent solution to the issue.

Turkey and the Turkish Cypriot side, except for a short period, have adopted an unsuccessful strategy of maintaining the partition instead of reunification of the island in these past 38 years.

When mentioning “a short period,” I meant the window of opportunity that opened in 2003 with the coincidence of extraordinary local and international circumstances and that was closed the year after when the Greek Cypriots voted an unfortunate “no” to the Annan Plan referendum.

The Turkish Cypriot side, led by Derviş Eroğlu, who is a follower of the Rauf Denktaş line, together with a Turkey ruled by the Justice and Development Party (AKP), has returned to the pre-2003 era. Ankara’s determination in applying a policy of Turkification on the island is an indication of this. The short period when the Turkish side adopted the slogan of “always being one step ahead” has become history. Developments are weakening the Varosha “card” and as it gets weaker, it loses its exchange value in the Cyprus equation.

And as the course of events show, the equivalent on the Greek Cypriot side of the huge exchange value that the Turkish side attributes to Varosha today will lose its meaning even more when a new factor emerges, totally altering the equation of the game in Cyprus in the near future.

This factor is the natural gas reserves found in block 12, neighboring Israel, in the exclusive economic zone the Greek Cyprus Administration has declared in the south of the island. According to the estimates of the American Noble Energy Company that has been conducting the exploratory drilling, there is a massive natural gas reserve of 3 trillion cubic meters in this region. According to reports, drilling will start in the second half of this year. It does not seem to be possible that the natural gas will begin to generate economic benefits before 2018, given that storage and condensing facilities still need to be established in southern Cyprus.

The Greek Cyprus Administration is known to the world as a sovereign state under the name of “Republic of Cyprus” and Turkey’s objections are not recognized.

These natural gas resources, in today’s world where the chances of a Nabucco pipeline have been wiped away, are of indispensable value for meeting the EU’s energy demand.
This natural gas will increase the Greek Cypriot’s welfare and boost their self-esteem. As a result of this, their need for the value of Varosha will drop dramatically.

For this natural gas to reach the European markets, the most economic and shortest route is through Turkey… Also, Turkey is the natural customer for this gas. But for all this to happen, the Cyprus issue must be solved…
For the north of Cyprus to receive its just share from the natural gas richness, a solution and union are a must. To try to maintain the partition, in this context, is irrationalism equivalent to isolationism.
It is also a different matter whether or not the Greek Cypriots would want to share one fifth of this gas with the north of the island, a figure that corresponds to the Turkish population’s ratio.
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Re: Just '74 Days To Go ...!!!!

Postby wyoming cowboy » Tue Jun 19, 2012 9:21 am

kimon07 wrote:
humanist wrote:SG of the Arab League in Cyprus on official visit
FAMAGUSTA GAZETTE • Mon, Jun 18, 2012
The Secretary General of the League of Arab States, Nabil el-Araby, will pay an official visit to Cyprus between June 17 and 18, following an invitation by the Minister of Foreign Affairs Erato Kozakou-Marcoullis, in view of the upcoming Cyprus Presidency of the Council of the European Union.

Bilateral relations, current developments in the Middle East and EU–Arab League ties will be on the agenda of talks in Nicosia.

On Monday, a tête-à-tête meeting between Nabil el-Araby and Marcoullis will be followed by extensive consultations between the two delegations. After their meeting, statements will be made to the press.

The Secretary General of the Arab League will be received by President Demetris Christofias and the President of the House of Representatives, Yiannakis Omirou.

The Secretary General of the League of Arab States will depart from Cyprus on Monday evening.



I thought this might be appropriate in this thread


Indeed. Considering that the Turks put many of their hopes on the Arab League for the success of their "Plan B"



Plan B went out the window a year ago when the Palestinian and Egyptian delegation at the UN walked out of Erdogans' speech.........So now the Turks from my calculations are down to plan AA...
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