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Some time ago I was slated on here for suggesting that Turks were actually the murderers of certain Northern Turks. To me, they were being very naive if they thought that was not a possibility. I have since read work by a very prominent Turk journalist the actualities of what happened in 1974. For instance, the disgusting and disgraceful propaganda meted out to a Turk officer's family (his wife and two sons) wasn't done by Greek Cypriots, but done by Turks - probably even the officer himself. Obviously for the greater good of the regime's nasty directives.

A small fire was started in a mosque, it's the end of the world and all Greeks are scum! So the fact that Turks, in 1974, circumcised, scalped and burnt alive priests in Churches. They stole gold and desecrated Churches and grave yards. They continue to desecrate Greek Orthodox Churches in the north of Cyprus and Turkey itself. All that and they have audacity to complain about a small fire.

To be honest, I'm disgusted with the Greek Cypriots involved in this for two reasons: 1. they actually wasted kerosene on starting this fire - all they had to do was stuff the mosque with Turk and illegally occupied north flags and then use one match; 2. they didn't burn the whole piece of sh*t mosque down. Why should we have mosques in a Christian country, when our own Churches are turned to dust?

Hear hear

[Mapko]

Yes, it is, Bill. The Greek Cypriots were blamed to fan the flames against them.

[bill cobbett]

Yes, it is, Bill. The Greek Cypriots were blamed to fan the flames against them.

Wouldn't be surprised to hear that the exhibit is still on display somewhere in the Occupied Areas.... even though all have known the truth of the matter for years.

[humanist]

Humanist i didn't say that nothing happened in North....Lots of things happened in Cyprus ...it did happened on both sides heritages....we are not in 63's or 74!s now....it should stop this hate ...by finding excuses all the time it will not stop and it will not help for the future of the Cyprus....

I always condemns any attack or damage caused to any cultural, religious and historic heritage of Cyprus North or South, Greek or Turkish. Its our firm belief that a respect for each others heritage is respecting our own values as human beings and waiting same respect from you lots ....not finding excuse !!!!!

Halili brother, look what I said It is a despicable act that some morons of the Greek Cypriot community if indeed the GC's burnt down the Mosque.

Perhaps your leader got his thugs to burn down the Mosque to redirect blame to the GC community because he does not want reunification? In any case I have not made excuses. Who ever found acted this way will be found and charged as have those who destroyed TC cars. I guess anger and bitterness will exist with any society where people feel they have been unjustly treated. Imagine knowing that your home has become the palace of a settler against your will. And every TC who lives in the occupied area in effect supports this act of violence of a different kind. You don't burn down Chrhes any more but you stop Christmas Services with people half way through their prayers and bigger even still you support a Turkish Army where through the force of guns keep people away from their properties which they worked hard to attain.

[denizaksulu]

One never knows. wasnt there a Turkish Army officer or General that made a statement like, ' oh yes, we bombed and burnt a few mosques in Cyprus'. Pity we will never know the truth.

[GreekIslandGirl]

One never knows. wasnt there a Turkish Army officer or General that made a statement like, ' oh yes, we bombed and burnt a few mosques in Cyprus'. Pity we will never know the truth.

Hello Breaking your fast?

I was thinking of you a few weeks ago when I took a photo of a Mosque in Paphos (I posted it on some other thread). It was fairly freshly whitewashed and the roof was in excellent repair (some leftover new tiles still on site).

RoC maintained Mosques all in perfect condition - waiting for their prodigal TCs to come back ....

[kimon07]

Some time ago I was slated on here for suggesting that Turks were actually the murderers of certain Northern Turks. To me, they were being very naive if they thought that was not a possibility. I have since read work by a very prominent Turk journalist the actualities of what happened in 1974. For instance, the disgusting and disgraceful propaganda meted out to a Turk officer's family (his wife and two sons) wasn't done by Greek Cypriots, but done by Turks - probably even the officer himself. Obviously for the greater good of the regime's nasty directives.

A small fire was started in a mosque, it's the end of the world and all Greeks are scum! So the fact that Turks, in 1974, circumcised, scalped and burnt alive priests in Churches. They stole gold and desecrated Churches and grave yards. They continue to desecrate Greek Orthodox Churches in the north of Cyprus and Turkey itself. All that and they have audacity to complain about a small fire.

To be honest, I'm disgusted with the Greek Cypriots involved in this for two reasons: 1. they actually wasted kerosene on starting this fire - all they had to do was stuff the mosque with Turk and illegally occupied north flags and then use one match; 2. they didn't burn the whole piece of sh*t mosque down. Why should we have mosques in a Christian country, when our own Churches are turned to dust?

Is the first paragraph about what has come to be called the "Babies in the Bath" incident, in which a deranged father killed his family? The gruesome scene was recreated complete with bath and fake blood in some pseudo-museum in the Occupied Areas and blamed on the Rums.... ?????... ???

Are you both referring to the 1963 family massacre the pictures of which made the round of the world??

[bill cobbett]

Some time ago I was slated on here for suggesting that Turks were actually the murderers of certain Northern Turks. To me, they were being very naive if they thought that was not a possibility. I have since read work by a very prominent Turk journalist the actualities of what happened in 1974. For instance, the disgusting and disgraceful propaganda meted out to a Turk officer's family (his wife and two sons) wasn't done by Greek Cypriots, but done by Turks - probably even the officer himself. Obviously for the greater good of the regime's nasty directives.

A small fire was started in a mosque, it's the end of the world and all Greeks are scum! So the fact that Turks, in 1974, circumcised, scalped and burnt alive priests in Churches. They stole gold and desecrated Churches and grave yards. They continue to desecrate Greek Orthodox Churches in the north of Cyprus and Turkey itself. All that and they have audacity to complain about a small fire.

To be honest, I'm disgusted with the Greek Cypriots involved in this for two reasons: 1. they actually wasted kerosene on starting this fire - all they had to do was stuff the mosque with Turk and illegally occupied north flags and then use one match; 2. they didn't burn the whole piece of sh*t mosque down. Why should we have mosques in a Christian country, when our own Churches are turned to dust?

Is the first paragraph about what has come to be called the "Babies in the Bath" incident, in which a deranged father killed his family? The gruesome scene was recreated complete with bath and fake blood in some pseudo-museum in the Occupied Areas and blamed on the Rums.... ?????... ???

Are you both referring to the 1963 family massacre the pictures of which made the round of the world??

Yes, but not sure as to quite how world-wide the story went.

[kimon07]

Some time ago I was slated on here for suggesting that Turks were actually the murderers of certain Northern Turks. To me, they were being very naive if they thought that was not a possibility. I have since read work by a very prominent Turk journalist the actualities of what happened in 1974. For instance, the disgusting and disgraceful propaganda meted out to a Turk officer's family (his wife and two sons) wasn't done by Greek Cypriots, but done by Turks - probably even the officer himself. Obviously for the greater good of the regime's nasty directives.

A small fire was started in a mosque, it's the end of the world and all Greeks are scum! So the fact that Turks, in 1974, circumcised, scalped and burnt alive priests in Churches. They stole gold and desecrated Churches and grave yards. They continue to desecrate Greek Orthodox Churches in the north of Cyprus and Turkey itself. All that and they have audacity to complain about a small fire.

To be honest, I'm disgusted with the Greek Cypriots involved in this for two reasons: 1. they actually wasted kerosene on starting this fire - all they had to do was stuff the mosque with Turk and illegally occupied north flags and then use one match; 2. they didn't burn the whole piece of sh*t mosque down. Why should we have mosques in a Christian country, when our own Churches are turned to dust?

Is the first paragraph about what has come to be called the "Babies in the Bath" incident, in which a deranged father killed his family? The gruesome scene was recreated complete with bath and fake blood in some pseudo-museum in the Occupied Areas and blamed on the Rums.... ?????... ???

Are you both referring to the 1963 family massacre the pictures of which made the round of the world??

Yes, but not sure as to quite how world-wide the story went.

Well, as a kid then, I remember my parents being shocked, both in regard to the posssibility of the crime having being committed by "our's" as well as in respect to the wide publicity that the event got at least in the British press.

[kimon07]

Did you know of this Bill?

More information from AFRIKA on the bathroom massacre incident.


Turkish Cypriot daily AFRIKA newspaper (28.02.07) reports in its first page that there is new information on the issue of the bathroom massacre incident. (TR. Note: The incident took place in 1963, where a Turkish Cypriot family was found dead in the bathroom of its house. The Turkish Cypriot side supports that the family was killed by Greek Cypriot guerrillas). AFRIKAs columnist Sener Levent reports, inter alia, in his daily Column Point of View that there is the need to clarify this issue. Mr Levent goes on and writes that the paper received two more pieces of information on this issue yesterday: The first one is related to Hasan Kudum who was hurt during the bathroom massacre incident but he did not lose his life. Asked by his friends if those who came to kill them spoke between them Greek or Turkish, Hasan Kudum stated: There were persons who spoke Greek and there were persons who spoke Turkish. The second information is related to a person who was known under the name Bozkurt (Grey wolf) and later it was found out that his real name was Kenan Coskun. Nihat Ilhan, whose wife and three children were killed in the incident, went to Kenan Coskun and asked him: Has the organisation killed my family in order to secure the intervention of Turkey in the island?. The answer given by Kenan Coskun and bothered Nihat Ilhan was the following: Go and take revenge. He did not tell him from where to take revenge, writes Sener Levent.

and

Family-in-bath officer returns to Cyprus 24 March 2007

RETIRED Turkish army brigadier Nihat Ilhan whose entire family was found dead in a bathtub in the Turkish quarter of Nicosia in December 1963, returned to Cyprus for the first time after the incident this week.
He was invited to the celebrations on the Moslem Day of the Martyrs in the occupied areas, where the house in which the murder took place has been turned into a “Museum of Barbarism.”
Turkish propaganda has blamed the Greek Cypriots for the brutal murder of Ilhan’s wife and three small children, but there has since been mounting evidence that he might have done it himself in a fit of insanity.
After that, Ilhan was transferred to an army unit in Anatolia where he remarried.
Turkish Cypriot publisher and columnist Sener Levent in a series of recent articles leaves open the question of foul play, while General Bedrettin Demirel, who led the Turkish invasion forces in Cyprus in 1974, states in his diaries that the dead children and their mother were deliberately placed in the bathtub and photographed for propaganda purposes.
During his visit Ilhan appeared annoyed at the controversy surrounding the death of his first family.
He also met Costas Yennaris, a Greek Cypriot journalist who published a confession by a Turkish photographer corroborating the propaganda exploitation of the incident.
Ilhan asked Yennaris for an apology, which the latter refused.
Yennaris said he was surprised at the impassioned attitude shown by Ilhan in being present at the scene of his family’s tragedy after so many years.
Ilhan, now 84, came to the occupied north of the island accompanied by members of his new family.

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