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[Me Ed]

Yes, some out-of-the-box thinking is required as both partition and any solutions giving privilege based on ethnicity are out of the question, especially in this day and age (post apartheid South Africa).

What is required is the Cypriotization of Cyprus which should be led by the RoC and formed of a delegation of Cypriots from both sides of the divide to define the following:

1) what it is to be a Cypriot including culture and cuisine etc.
2) a set of values that identifies us as Cypriots.
3) a new flag
4) a new national anthem

These should then be implemented by the RoC, with the removal of the flags of foreign countries as a symbol of the RoC and the replacement of the national anthem.

The display of other flags will be acceptable in places of worship and other specially defined establishments, but banned in Government buildings.

If an establishment, such as a Hotel, wishes to display the flag of Greece, the flag of Turkey must also be displayed along side it and vice-versa.

Affirmation of a visible Cypriot identity by the RoC will then give the TCs trapped in the occupied areas something to aspire to and to eventually join maintream Cypriot society as equal Cypriots and EU citizens.

Will that be in the context of a BBF? which is supported by the UN?

The aim of Cypriotization is to break down the barriers that drive a wedge between those that see themselves as Greek and Turk and affirm the primary identity as Cypriot.

So the simple answer to your question is of course yes, and equally it could also work within a unitary Cypriot state.

The aim would be to start within a BBF framework, and in time as the Cypriot identity takes hold and with the possibility of citizens voting patterns changing, see Cyprus transformed into a unitary state.

So pretty much along the lines of the AP which as you know was rejected by GCs.

Sort of but without having two identifiable Greek and Turkish sectors, which could be a road map to partition.

Instead, there will be two northern and southern zones for local administration purposes and EU funding will be used bring the north zone up to the same standard of the south and to standardise the Cypriot identity throughout the whole of the island, for example:

1) All road signs will be trilingual - Greek/Turkish/English.
2) Cypriot flag on all government buildings with trilingual signage.
3) Police to wear the same uniforms, with absolutely no notion of "Greek" or "Turkish" police.

This is so there can be no perception that people are either entering a "Greek" sector or a "Turkish" sector - it will all be seen as one standardised Cypriot country.

[supporttheunderdog]

Yes, some out-of-the-box thinking is required as both partition and any solutions giving privilege based on ethnicity are out of the question, especially in this day and age (post apartheid South Africa).

What is required is the Cypriotization of Cyprus which should be led by the RoC and formed of a delegation of Cypriots from both sides of the divide to define the following:

1) what it is to be a Cypriot including culture and cuisine etc.
2) a set of values that identifies us as Cypriots.
3) a new flag
4) a new national anthem

These should then be implemented by the RoC, with the removal of the flags of foreign countries as a symbol of the RoC and the replacement of the national anthem.

The display of other flags will be acceptable in places of worship and other specially defined establishments, but banned in Government buildings.

If an establishment, such as a Hotel, wishes to display the flag of Greece, the flag of Turkey must also be displayed along side it and vice-versa.

Affirmation of a visible Cypriot identity by the RoC will then give the TCs trapped in the occupied areas something to aspire to and to eventually join maintream Cypriot society as equal Cypriots and EU citizens.

Will that be in the context of a BBF? which is supported by the UN?

The aim of Cypriotization is to break down the barriers that drive a wedge between those that see themselves as Greek and Turk and affirm the primary identity as Cypriot.

So the simple answer to your question is of course yes, and equally it could also work within a unitary Cypriot state.

The aim would be to start within a BBF framework, and in time as the Cypriot identity takes hold and with the possibility of citizens voting patterns changing, see Cyprus transformed into a unitary state.

So pretty much along the lines of the AP which as you know was rejected by GCs.

Sort of but without having two identifiable Greek and Turkish sectors, which could be a road map to partition.

Instead, there will be two northern and southern zones for local administration purposes and EU funding will be used bring the north zone up to the same standard of the south and to standardise the Cypriot identity throughout the whole of the island, for example:

1) All road signs will be trilingual - Greek/Turkish/English.
2) Cypriot flag on all government buildings with trilingual signage.
3) Police to wear the same uniforms, with absolutely no notion of "Greek" or "Turkish" police.

This is so there can be no perception that people are either entering a "Greek" sector or a "Turkish" sector - it will all be seen as one standardised Cypriot country.

must include the general right (with certain very limited exceptions) of all Cypriots to return to homes they may have been forced to flee in either sector

[barouti]

Spoken like a true Greek Kimon. If it wasn't for the Great powers that defeated the Ottoman fleet in 1827 there would be no Greece today. Such arguments feed the stupidity of those that are determine to hold progress.

Ha ha ha, there she blows: "there would be no Greece today" !!! I'm sure you curse the European powers for intervening in 1827 as much as you do for your ancestors for missing the "golden opportunity" of becoming genitsaroi when they had the chance when Cyprus was under the Ottoman yolk. Banananiot, the southern Greeks (the same region modern Kyproi descended from) were going to keep fighting your mates, the Turcos, for eternity. For someone who considers any mass killings as "genocide" you seem to conveniently neglect the Turkish atrocities against the Greeks not only in the south but also Chios, Constantinople and Smyrni. And of course you do because if you do the Turks might cease to consider you the forum's useful idiot and then what will become of you. It's your Turcophilia and their applause that gives you a voice in this forum. If it wasn't for them you would just be a plain idiot. I'm sure the mere mentioning of Φάλαγγα των Κυπρίων causes you to cringe as in the pro-Turkish fortress of solitude you created, together with the unicorns and mermaids who constantly sing “Happy is he who calls himself a Turk” as you dance around and sing with them, you purposely neglect the historical fact that there was euphoria in Cyprus when news came of the Greek War of Independence. The Turks, if successful, had plans to deport the entire southern population to Egypt and replace them with Arabs (yep, I know what you're thinking: if that happened then you would have been happy to identify yourself with the Arabs). So the Greek War of Ungratefulness (as you probably view it, which again is to win brownie points with the Turks) was eventually about survival. And you once again prove with your pro-Ottoman sympathies and Turcophilia, what a hypocrite you are. Instead of applauding a subjected people's struggle against a despot, you support the oppressor. You sound as if you're bitter that the European powers intervened. By the time they did over 250,000 Greeks were slaughtered by the Turks. Imagine how many more would have died. That excites you, doesnt it, the possibility that more Greeks would have been slayed by the Turks, you sick hypocrite.

Going back to the brave Column of Cypriots who came to fight for Greek independence, they did the same 2000 years before 1821:



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