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Re: Death of a true hero.

Postby Schnauzer » Fri Apr 13, 2012 2:29 pm

In answer to 'Viewpoint's' earlier question:-

Well Sir, now we are in to the realm of 'Fleas'.

Large Fleas have lesser Fleas, the lesser Fleas do bite 'em
and lesser Fleas have lesser Fleas and so 'Ad infinitum'

Large Fleas have Larger Fleas, with larger Fleas upon 'em
and larger Fleas have larger Fleas and on and on and so on.

BUT, if you are attempting to justify the actions of the 'Bullying and Cowardly' forces of the West and the manner in which they have in the past (and currently ARE) imposing their will upon weaker Nations, then I suggest you discover WHICH of the above 'Fleas' is the greatest irritant, the question you pose is one which does not qualify for an intelligent answer since it is quite nonsensical. (imho) :wink:
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Re: Death of a true hero.

Postby Viewpoint » Fri Apr 13, 2012 2:51 pm

AEKTZIS wrote:The second one because you conveniently forgot to mention the bit where he rapes and kills the first bully, and steals half of his possessions as "punishment". The second bully also has a criminal record and previous convictions of assault and murder, namely Kurds and Armenians. Essentially what you are saying is equivalent to defending murderous loan sharks. Not only is it a bizarre and unjustifiable claim, it is backwards and morally abominable:

"Why are loan sharks bad? When someone is owed money, a loan shark acts on his behalf to beat the shit out of the debtor and take the money that he owes. A loan shark does not target someone who is innocent, only those that owe money. Any actions done by the loan shark to assault or kill are justifiable because the man he kills or assaults has done harm."


This is a medieval way of thinking. This kind of mentality belongs in 1500 Ottoman dominion. Justifying death and rape is pathetic.


So according to your logic the first bully is totally innocent and should have been allowed to kick rape and shit all over the weak...yeah you have really impressed us....look aztec you thought you could get away with it but stronger and meaner kicked you senseless and took away your sweets booh hoo....time you grew up accepting the blame for your mistakes and being such a bully.
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Re: Death of a true hero.

Postby Viewpoint » Fri Apr 13, 2012 2:52 pm

bsharpish wrote:I'll keep my response in context ......

Shooting unarmed women (on a shopping trip) in the back is an act of barbarism without justification and imho terrorism ...... Any organisation that condones or undertakes such actions crosses the line between freedom fighter and terrorist.

The brutal response was just as much an act of terror and was a good example of both the escalation of brutality and a classic case of occupier turned oppressor.

I can think of few heroic freedom fighters ......... Other than the obvious "great soul" himself


Would that be in the same class as burying women and babies alive?
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Re: Death of a true hero.

Postby Viewpoint » Fri Apr 13, 2012 2:55 pm

Schnauzer wrote:In answer to 'Viewpoint's' earlier question:-

Well Sir, now we are in to the realm of 'Fleas'.

Large Fleas have lesser Fleas, the lesser Fleas do bite 'em
and lesser Fleas have lesser Fleas and so 'Ad infinitum'

Large Fleas have Larger Fleas, with larger Fleas upon 'em
and larger Fleas have larger Fleas and on and on and so on.

BUT, if you are attempting to justify the actions of the 'Bullying and Cowardly' forces of the West and the manner in which they have in the past (and currently ARE) imposing their will upon weaker Nations, then I suggest you discover WHICH of the above 'Fleas' is the greatest irritant, the question you pose is one which does not qualify for an intelligent answer since it is quite nonsensical. (imho) :wink:


You were the bully that got bullied so no one is helping you get your sweeties back because two bullies are just that bullies.
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Re: Death of a true hero.

Postby AEKTZIS » Fri Apr 13, 2012 3:07 pm

Viewpoint wrote:So according to your logic the first bully is totally innocent and should have been allowed to kick rape and shit all over the weak...yeah you have really impressed us....look aztec you thought you could get away with it but stronger and meaner kicked you senseless and took away your sweets booh hoo....time you grew up accepting the blame for your mistakes and being such a bully.


And you claim to love Cyprus? And you want to share an island with me as fellow countrymen? It seems that you take pride in these barbaric actions. Firstly, I never claimed that the first bully is totally innocent. Anybody reading my post about Sampson can infer that these people were guilty in my view. But for someone to be proud of Turkey's terroristic, shameful actions is shocking and deflating. People like you are a disgrace to Cyprus.

περασμένα μεγαλεία και διηγώντας τα να κλαις...
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Re: Death of a true hero.

Postby bsharpish » Fri Apr 13, 2012 3:15 pm

I don't differentiate .....

Armed men , in or out of uniform, irrespective of ethnicity/religious or cultural beliefs who slaughter non combatants with or without state support are committing acts of barbarism and terror.

And before anyone jumps in ..... Yes the bombing of Dresden, Hiroshima et al fall under this criteria as does the Armenian genocide, the massacres of Turks and Greeks in Cyprus by BOTH sides ...... Yes the list is endless :-(

As an afterthought .... Notice I use the term "Armed Men" as although it's a generalisation you rarely find women undertaking such lunacy.
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Re: Death of a true hero.

Postby Viewpoint » Fri Apr 13, 2012 3:21 pm

AEKTZIS wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:So according to your logic the first bully is totally innocent and should have been allowed to kick rape and shit all over the weak...yeah you have really impressed us....look aztec you thought you could get away with it but stronger and meaner kicked you senseless and took away your sweets booh hoo....time you grew up accepting the blame for your mistakes and being such a bully.


And you claim to love Cyprus? And you want to share an island with me as fellow countrymen? It seems that you take pride in these barbaric actions. Firstly, I never claimed that the first bully is totally innocent. Anybody reading my post about Sampson can infer that these people were guilty in my view. But for someone to be proud of Turkey's terroristic, shameful actions is shocking and deflating. People like you are a disgrace to Cyprus.

περασμένα μεγαλεία και διηγώντας τα να κλαις...


If you are having the shit kicked out of you and someone comes to protect and save you giving the first bully a taste of his own medicine then all ı can say is thank god for the person that had the courage to step in.

Wanting to live and not have the shit kicked out of them and ones love for Cyprus are two totally diffierent things you appear confused and naive in trying to sentimentally relate the two therefore excusing your own barbarity.

I will only consider sharing the island with you if we have our own states and under plenty of guarantees, checks and balances to ensure you are not allowed to kick the shit out of me ever again.

Your last sentence is Greek to everyone and against the rules.
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Re: Death of a true hero.

Postby AEKTZIS » Fri Apr 13, 2012 4:18 pm

This is how I read your sentence:

THANK GOD

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FOR THE PERSON

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THAT HAD

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THE COURAGE

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TO STEP IN

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Re: Death of a true hero.

Postby AEKTZIS » Fri Apr 13, 2012 4:20 pm

Congratulations for the rape of Cyprus. You seem proud. You are a patriot mate.
For all the bad things Greeks did in Cyprus, you will NEVER find me taking pride in death of others.
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Re: Death of a true hero.

Postby Jerry » Fri Apr 13, 2012 5:18 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
AEKTZIS wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:So according to your logic the first bully is totally innocent and should have been allowed to kick rape and shit all over the weak...yeah you have really impressed us....look aztec you thought you could get away with it but stronger and meaner kicked you senseless and took away your sweets booh hoo....time you grew up accepting the blame for your mistakes and being such a bully.


And you claim to love Cyprus? And you want to share an island with me as fellow countrymen? It seems that you take pride in these barbaric actions. Firstly, I never claimed that the first bully is totally innocent. Anybody reading my post about Sampson can infer that these people were guilty in my view. But for someone to be proud of Turkey's terroristic, shameful actions is shocking and deflating. People like you are a disgrace to Cyprus.

περασμένα μεγαλεία και διηγώντας τα να κλαις...


If you are having the shit kicked out of you and someone comes to protect and save you giving the first bully a taste of his own medicine then all ı can say is thank god for the person that had the courage to step in.

Wanting to live and not have the shit kicked out of them and ones love for Cyprus are two totally diffierent things you appear confused and naive in trying to sentimentally relate the two therefore excusing your own barbarity.

I will only consider sharing the island with you if we have our own states and under plenty of guarantees, checks and balances to ensure you are not allowed to kick the shit out of me ever again.

Your last sentence is Greek to everyone and against the rules.



Hey VP, you must have skipped this, follow the link, scroll down and then tell us who was the first bully - bearing in mind you were outnumbered 4 to 1 but had the benefit of police uniforms. More GC victims than TCs.

No doubt this site, http://www.britains-smallwars.com/cypru ... ercommunal will be dismissed because it has a British source. The casualty figures at the end of the page, however, make interesting reading especially for the proponents of "the Turkish Cypriot genocide" theory.
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