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A conundrum of a solution.

How can we solve it? (keep it civilized)

Liberation of Cyprus is worth the loss of EU veto:


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A conundrum of a solution.

Postby GreekIslandGirl » Tue Apr 03, 2012 6:36 pm

If the EU proposed undertaking the complete liberation of Cyprus, from Turkish troops, in exchange for the RoC renouncing its veto right because Greece's would suffice for both; would this be a price worth paying?


- Cyprus will still have 6 MEP representatives.
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Re: A conundrum of a solution.

Postby Bananiot » Tue Apr 03, 2012 6:58 pm

Of course, but this is tantamount to me winning the lotto on 3 consecutive days. The fact that anyone can entertain such thoughts says a lot, but I'll shut up.
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Re: A conundrum of a solution.

Postby GreekIslandGirl » Tue Apr 03, 2012 7:03 pm

Bananiot wrote: ... The fact that anyone can entertain such thoughts says a lot, but I'll shut up.


Thoughts for the Liberation of Cyprus? I'm very sad for you if you cannot entertain such thoughts.

- I'm sure many resent Cyprus having a veto and would be prepared to buy it back in some way. On the plus side - I cannot foresee any scenarios where Greece and Cyprus would differ in their use of the veto.
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Re: A conundrum of a solution.

Postby Sotos » Tue Apr 03, 2012 7:12 pm

GreekIslandGirl wrote:If the EU proposed undertaking the complete liberation of Cyprus, from Turkish troops, in exchange for the RoC renouncing its veto right because Greece's would suffice for both; would this be a price worth paying?


- Cyprus will still have 6 MEP representatives.


But how are the two things related? Why would the EU propose such thing?
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Re: A conundrum of a solution.

Postby GreekIslandGirl » Tue Apr 03, 2012 7:17 pm

Sotos wrote:
GreekIslandGirl wrote:If the EU proposed undertaking the complete liberation of Cyprus, from Turkish troops, in exchange for the RoC renouncing its veto right because Greece's would suffice for both; would this be a price worth paying?


- Cyprus will still have 6 MEP representatives.


But how are the two things related? Why would the EU propose such thing?


Some countries object to small places such as Cyprus having a veto. Especially since they believe that Greece and Cyprus are like-minded anyway (vote for each other during the Eurovision song contest, for example :) ). If they could have one less 'nuisance' of a veto within the EU, for the price of liberating the RoC (which is beneficial EU territory, after all), then perhaps it could be the pay-off?
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Re: A conundrum of a solution.

Postby Sotos » Tue Apr 03, 2012 7:22 pm

I see ... but I don't see it happening. But maybe the argument could be put in reverse. If they ask us to give up our veto then we should say that before we do that we need to see proof of the solidarity of other EU countries so we would know that we do not need a veto to protect our interests. And the proof would be to push the Turks out of Cyprus. If they don't then we also don't agree to give up our veto.
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Re: A conundrum of a solution.

Postby Bananiot » Tue Apr 03, 2012 7:33 pm

Who left the doors of the looney house open? Veto's are for the big fish for a start but to think that we (the pathetic minnows) can blackmail the EU is beyond any sane man's comprehension. Makarios tried this petty megalomaniac stuff before and look to where it got us.
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Re: A conundrum of a solution.

Postby Viewpoint » Tue Apr 03, 2012 8:15 pm

This thread should be in the joke section :lol:
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Re: A conundrum of a solution.

Postby B25 » Tue Apr 03, 2012 8:17 pm

The EU should be liberating its member without asking for the Veto back. This is whats wrong with the EU, there is no 'Union', just a brown nose turkish arse kisser. Thats reminds me of another one of those here :)
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Re: A conundrum of a solution.

Postby supporttheunderdog » Tue Apr 03, 2012 8:33 pm

If it was guranteed that Greece would exercise its veto (or not) according to the requirements of the ROC as opposed to in the self interest of Greece against the wishes of the ROC (say because they have been bought-off) and if was clear how the EU would get the turks out then it is well worth considering, I dont however trust the EU (or the Americans) not to buy the Greeks off in the interests of what they see as the "bigger picture" .

For a start the Customs union should be suspended: the EU should look at a reciprocal ban across EU airspace and EU ports of Turkish Planes and Ships, abd close the roads to Turkish Trucks.
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