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A conundrum of a solution.

How can we solve it? (keep it civilized)

Liberation of Cyprus is worth the loss of EU veto:


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Yes
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GreekIslandGirl, supporttheunderdog, wyoming cowboy
No
1
25%
 
humanist
I don't want Cyprus liberated
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Re: A conundrum of a solution.

Postby Viewpoint » Tue Apr 03, 2012 8:35 pm

B25 wrote:The EU should be liberating its member without asking for the Veto back. This is whats wrong with the EU, there is no 'Union', just a brown nose turkish arse kisser. Thats reminds me of another one of those here :)


They dont give a shit about a tiny group of spoilt GCs, 8 years of nothing speaks volumes.
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Re: A conundrum of a solution.

Postby Cap » Tue Apr 03, 2012 8:38 pm

Amazing what power this little nation holds.
Just watch these Anatolians log on and enjoy the show. :D
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Re: A conundrum of a solution.

Postby Viewpoint » Tue Apr 03, 2012 8:43 pm

Cap wrote:Amazing what power this little nation holds.
Just watch these Anatolians log on and enjoy the show. :D


You people havent got the balls.
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Re: A conundrum of a solution.

Postby humanist » Wed Apr 04, 2012 12:31 am

Cyprus is an Sovereign Nation and needs to have its Veto Rights. We are not represented by Greece and not all Cypriots want to be represented by Greece.

In addition Cyprus should buy Greece
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Re: A conundrum of a solution.

Postby GreekIslandGirl » Wed Apr 04, 2012 1:40 am

humanist wrote:Cyprus is an Sovereign Nation and needs to have its Veto Rights. We are not represented by Greece and not all Cypriots want to be represented by Greece.

In addition Cyprus should buy Greece


I respect your bravery in saying 'No' - Frankly, I'm shocked you could prefer the present situation; the illegal withholding of nearly 40% of our country by Turkey, the presence of 40,000 occupying Turkish troops, the continued prohibition of some 200,000 Greek Cypriots to return to their homes and the perpetual colonisation of our island by Turkish Settlers. I'm surprised that suddenly all this could be acceptable to you for the price of a veto. A veto we did not have more than a few years ago. A veto which is only of any use to help keep out Turkey from the EU - until it stops occupying Cyprus. A veto which could become superfluous once Turkey has been forced to retreat from Cyprus.

Seriously, you would still insist on us having a veto, and Turkey staying put in Cyprus, simply because you believe we have some other requirements which are so different to those of our fellow Europeans, and Greeks in particular, that once Turkey has been removed for us - we shall still desperately need this veto vote?
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Re: A conundrum of a solution.

Postby wyoming cowboy » Wed Apr 04, 2012 7:40 am

give up Cyprus' veto for liberation from the Turks, if we ever had a choice like that who wouldnt take it... I bet Cyprus would even vote to confirm Turkey's entry into the Eu......but will this scenario ever be given to us? politics is such a mixed up game, that Turkey might just find a solution that makes sense
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Re: A conundrum of a solution.

Postby supporttheunderdog » Wed Apr 04, 2012 1:20 pm

GreekIslandGirl wrote:
humanist wrote:Cyprus is an Sovereign Nation and needs to have its Veto Rights. We are not represented by Greece and not all Cypriots want to be represented by Greece.

In addition Cyprus should buy Greece


I respect your bravery in saying 'No' - Frankly, I'm shocked you could prefer the present situation; the illegal withholding of nearly 40% of our country by Turkey, the presence of 40,000 occupying Turkish troops, the continued prohibition of some 200,000 Greek Cypriots to return to their homes and the perpetual colonisation of our island by Turkish Settlers. I'm surprised that suddenly all this could be acceptable to you for the price of a veto. A veto we did not have more than a few years ago. A veto which is only of any use to help keep out Turkey from the EU - until it stops occupying Cyprus. A veto which could become superfluous once Turkey has been forced to retreat from Cyprus.

Seriously, you would still insist on us having a veto, and Turkey staying put in Cyprus, simply because you believe we have some other requirements which are so different to those of our fellow Europeans, and Greeks in particular, that once Turkey has been removed for us - we shall still desperately need this veto vote?


Has Humanist said he prefers the present situation? He may have said no to what you propose but he, like me, might have serious doubts about whether Greece or the EU would (as all EU nations and the EU itself should) act to end the illegal occupation of 37% of Cyprus by Turkey. The trouble is that Turkey is currently too big a trading partner (and supplier of cheap goods) to the EU and still thought to important a NATO ally of the Americans that we cannot guarantee they will allow Greece to act in the interests of Cyprus, assuming Greece thought that was in their interests.

As it is, does this idea have an currency in the EU institutions and/or Greek government.
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Re: A conundrum of a solution.

Postby kurupetos » Wed Apr 04, 2012 3:38 pm

Bananiot wrote:Who left the doors of the looney house open? Veto's are for the big fish for a start but to think that we (the pathetic minnows) can blackmail the EU is beyond any sane man's comprehension. Makarios tried this petty megalomaniac stuff before and look to where it got us.

The veto right is a right for all countries in the EU ( :roll: ) and has nothing to do with blackmail.

Perhaps you have been spending too much time with Turks, since you it seems you have adopted Ottoman justice. :?

IMO traitors like yourself should be stripped of the CY citizenship. :twisted:
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Re: A conundrum of a solution.

Postby wyoming cowboy » Wed Apr 04, 2012 6:00 pm

Bananiot wrote:Of course, but this is tantamount to me winning the lotto on 3 consecutive days. The fact that anyone can entertain such thoughts says a lot, but I'll shut up.


Bananoit, the Eu has called for Turkey to remove its illegal occupying troops from Cyprus at least twice these past 12 months, how many times before 2004 has the Eu made a statement like that? It will ultimately be in Turkey's own interests to find a resolution to the Cyprus problem. The Turks see economic oppurtonities in the Arab world where they are being perceived as a model of nationhood, with Washington's approval. In order for the Turkish model to succeed in the Arab world, Turkey needs a direct economic, political, military connection to the West. Without the resolution of the Cyprus problem,Turkey is handicapped in fullfilling its duty as a statehood model for the Arabs. And with this handicap the model will ultimately fail.
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Re: A conundrum of a solution.

Postby wyoming cowboy » Wed Apr 04, 2012 6:05 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
B25 wrote:The EU should be liberating its member without asking for the Veto back. This is whats wrong with the EU, there is no 'Union', just a brown nose turkish arse kisser. Thats reminds me of another one of those here :)


They dont give a shit about a tiny group of spoilt GCs, 8 years of nothing speaks volumes.



100 years plus in energy needs, they give a shit Vp!!!
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