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by **Bananiot** » Mon Mar 26, 2012 4:49 pm

About a year before Papadopoulos was voted out, must have been 2006 or 2007. Talat offered Varosi to the RoC with one condition, which was backed by the EU, to allow direct trade. Papdopoulos rejected the offer and the EU was raving mad. The TC's moved further ahead of us in the blame game. Now, the "enemy" still calling the shots despite the threats of the CF warriors, is asking the GC's of Famagusta to return under TC administration. Our politicians, who are very good of dealing with routine chores, have suddenly gone into hiding (like they did in April 2003) and do not know what to do with real events. I think this is another masterpiece move by the Turks. The IPC comes into it big time. Thousands of GC's will flood the gates if this story holds true (I think it does by the way). They will reclaim their properties and can do a number of things afterwards. They can stay, under TC administration, or they can sell or rent their properties and move out again. You see, most of the people who went to the IPC, are from the fenced city of Famagusta. I hope the clueless patriots who have been fighting occupation in the internet without any cost, can see the significance of this move by Turkey and the symbolic day the fences will be removed.

by **Jerry** » Mon Mar 26, 2012 4:55 pm

B25 wrote:It's not just the money is it Jerry, would you take your wife and children there under these conditions, knowing what the Turkish army did the first time in '74, would any one seriously risk that. If they did, then again they would have only themselves to blame if the turkish army decided it wanted some more GC pussy.

Dunno B25, thousands of GCs have crossed to the north without too much trouble. I say use this as an opportunity to reclaim the town, if enough GCs move in, without investing any cash, the TCs could find themselves in a very difficult situation. Suppose they close the "border" with a few thousand trapped inside the town, would Turkey have the balls to throw them out a second time and on what grounds? Call Turkey's bluff, properly handled this could bring the rotten regime in the north and its pimp to its knees.

by **denizaksulu** » Mon Mar 26, 2012 4:59 pm

Bananiot wrote:About a year before Papadopoulos was voted out, must have been 2006 or 2007. Talat offered Varosi to the RoC with one condition, which was backed by the EU, to allow direct trade. Papdopoulos rejected the offer and the EU was raving mad. The TC's moved further ahead of us in the blame game. Now, the "enemy" still calling the shots despite the threats of the CF warriors, is asking the GC's of Famagusta to return under TC administration. Our politicians, who are very good of dealing with routine chores, have suddenly gone into hiding (like they did in April 2003) and do not know what to do with real events. I think this is another masterpiece move by the Turks. The IPC comes into it big time. Thousands of GC's will flood the gates if this story holds true (I think it does by the way). They will reclaim their properties and can do a number of things afterwards. They can stay, under TC administration, or they can sell or rent their properties and move out again. You see, most of the people who went to the IPC, are from the fenced city of Famagusta. I hope the clueless patriots who have been fighting occupation in the internet without any cost, can see the significance of this move by Turkey and the symbolic day the fences will be removed.

I think Eroğlu has had his knuckles rapped by Angora, hence his denial of the 'offer'.

by **boulio** » Mon Mar 26, 2012 5:33 pm

Bananiot you leave out some information concerning talats offer:to return to properties in varosha inder t/c administration also talatas condition also asked for direct flights from ercan.so please post the full proposal next time.

by **kimon07** » Mon Mar 26, 2012 5:39 pm

Shouldn't we Greek Cypriots use the Greek name of the city? Ammohostos? Why the Turkish name "Varoshia"?

by **B25** » Mon Mar 26, 2012 5:43 pm

Jerry wrote:
B25 wrote:It's not just the money is it Jerry, would you take your wife and children there under these conditions, knowing what the Turkish army did the first time in '74, would any one seriously risk that. If they did, then again they would have only themselves to blame if the turkish army decided it wanted some more GC pussy.

Dunno B25, thousands of GCs have crossed to the north without too much trouble.

Thats because the Turkish army were not trying to take anything back.

I say use this as an opportunity to reclaim the town, if enough GCs move in, without investing any cash, the TCs could find themselves in a very difficult situation.

How could you possibly move into a ghost town with no infrastructure or utilities or amenities without spending any money?

Suppose they close the "border" with a few thousand trapped inside the town, would Turkey have the balls to throw them out a second time and on what grounds?

Would you want to risk your family, suppose they don't throw them out, suppose they disappear (like shipped to turkey, murdered) the turks have good experience of this and history. Would you risk it??? And who in the international community, EU, UN is going to stop turkey doing what she wants? We have living proof, after 38 years and counting, those organs cannot be trusted.

Call Turkey's bluff, properly handled this could bring the rotten regime in the north and its pimp to its knees

Well, you have more patience and trust than I do. Turkey does not care what anyone thinks, she is a law unto herself. There is no handle correctly, we will be going under her terms and we will be recognising the authority of the turks, something we have resisted for 38 years now. Is it worth losing 37% of the island so a few thousand Varoshotes can get their homes back, what about the other 160,000 who don't?

by **Bananiot** » Mon Mar 26, 2012 5:58 pm

Boulio, Talat offered Varosha under GC administration and yes, he had some conditions attached to his offer ... this is politics. Nobody gives anything for free.

by **kimon07** » Mon Mar 26, 2012 6:08 pm

Bananiot wrote:Boulio, Talat offered Varosha under GC administration and yes, he had some conditions attached to his offer ... this is politics. Nobody gives anything for free.

It's not his to give. The UN have resolved how Ammochostos should be given to it's owners. The thief can not be dictating terms to return what he has stolen.

by **B25** » Mon Mar 26, 2012 6:21 pm

Makes no difference to the Turkish mouth piece. Probably happy he has now more to kick us with.
If this story is true then I would expect the RoC to say something, hopefully it would be useful, and be telling the Turks to stick their offer.