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Re: "Varosha to open on 1st July?"

Postby Viewpoint » Sun Apr 01, 2012 8:56 pm

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Why can we not just have two states where everyone can roam freely reside where they wish either under a GC or TC administration? why do you want to force that the whole island be under GC domination where we are reduced to minority status...why?


Because for one, the TCs and settlers (Turkey) does not own the north and neither does the GCs own the south for them to have their own independent states. Secondly, you are not trusted to have a True Democracy where everyone's rights will be protected, specially the minorities. Look at the Racist so called constitution of the "trnc" you have in the north for God sake which you support. Turkey's own constitution is barely better than the one in the north. Add to the north not wanting to be in the EU, the north will be nothing but a a state run by Fascists and the Mafia. This is not what your average decent TCs want. This is what Fascists like you want, so stop with your crocodile tears about safeguards for the TCs under a True Federation what Cowboy is talking about. A True Federation and EU Principles is all the safeguard the TCs will need. They will have ZERO safeguards under a Mafia state in the north which is what Fascists like you want.Under your kind of 2 states, anyone who is not a Fascists will not have their rights protected. In fact, they won't have hardly any rights.



We all know what your version of "A True Federation and EU Principles" is a sell out, we read your plan and your were found out. your only aim is to surrender the TCs to the mercy of the GCs, so go peddle your crooked "surgeon" elsewhere.


Thank you for proving my point. The whole western Democratic world lives by the principles I set out in my BBF plan for Cyprus and for all Cypriots. Only Fascists like you who at present lives under a Racist constitution is against such Democratic values enjoyed by the whole western world. You were found out long time ago as to the one who ONLY support Racist and Fascistic policies. No wonder you love Turkey so much. :roll:


Your sell out plan gave the GCs exactly what they wanted an open door to control over both states therefore the whole island, I proved this beyond a doubt, how do you expect to be taken seriously as TCs see you as a sell out merchant ready to stab us in the back at the first opportunity.
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Re: "Varosha to open on 1st July?"

Postby Kikapu » Sun Apr 01, 2012 9:43 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
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Kikapu wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Why can we not just have two states where everyone can roam freely reside where they wish either under a GC or TC administration? why do you want to force that the whole island be under GC domination where we are reduced to minority status...why?


Because for one, the TCs and settlers (Turkey) does not own the north and neither does the GCs own the south for them to have their own independent states. Secondly, you are not trusted to have a True Democracy where everyone's rights will be protected, specially the minorities. Look at the Racist so called constitution of the "trnc" you have in the north for God sake which you support. Turkey's own constitution is barely better than the one in the north. Add to the north not wanting to be in the EU, the north will be nothing but a a state run by Fascists and the Mafia. This is not what your average decent TCs want. This is what Fascists like you want, so stop with your crocodile tears about safeguards for the TCs under a True Federation what Cowboy is talking about. A True Federation and EU Principles is all the safeguard the TCs will need. They will have ZERO safeguards under a Mafia state in the north which is what Fascists like you want.Under your kind of 2 states, anyone who is not a Fascists will not have their rights protected. In fact, they won't have hardly any rights.



We all know what your version of "A True Federation and EU Principles" is a sell out, we read your plan and your were found out. your only aim is to surrender the TCs to the mercy of the GCs, so go peddle your crooked "surgeon" elsewhere.


Thank you for proving my point. The whole western Democratic world lives by the principles I set out in my BBF plan for Cyprus and for all Cypriots. Only Fascists like you who at present lives under a Racist constitution is against such Democratic values enjoyed by the whole western world. You were found out long time ago as to the one who ONLY support Racist and Fascistic policies. No wonder you love Turkey so much. :roll:


Your sell out plan gave the GCs exactly what they wanted an open door to control over both states therefore the whole island, I proved this beyond a doubt, how do you expect to be taken seriously as TCs see you as a sell out merchant ready to stab us in the back at the first opportunity.


No TC has complaint about my BBF plan. Only Turks like you with a Fascist and Racist ideology who cannot accept True Democracy. Too bad for you because in the end, that's exactly what will come to Cyprus. 2004 was the turning point against Fascists like you. You can scream and shout all you want, but in the end, True Democracy will come to all of Cyprus. Turkey can only protect you Fascist for only so long. As soon as she becomes a True Democracy herself in the future, you Fascists in Cyprus will become history. Good Ridden!
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Re: "Varosha to open on 1st July?"

Postby Maximus » Sun Apr 01, 2012 10:08 pm

well said Kikapu but you are wasting your time!
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Re: "Varosha to open on 1st July?"

Postby humanist » Sun Apr 01, 2012 10:24 pm

well said Kikapu, but you are wasting your time.
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Re: "Varosha to open on 1st July?"

Postby Viewpoint » Sun Apr 01, 2012 10:26 pm

And the sheep will follow.
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Re: "Varosha to open on 1st July?"

Postby Viewpoint » Sun Apr 01, 2012 10:30 pm

Kikapu wrote:
No TC has complaint about my BBF plan. Only Turks like you with a Fascist and Racist ideology who cannot accept True Democracy. Too bad for you because in the end, that's exactly what will come to Cyprus. 2004 was the turning point against Fascists like you. You can scream and shout all you want, but in the end, True Democracy will come to all of Cyprus. Turkey can only protect you Fascist for only so long. As soon as she becomes a True Democracy herself in the future, you Fascists in Cyprus will become history. Good Ridden!


Do us all favor and hold your breath, stop playing to the stands 8 years have passed after this so called turning point and you are further from a solution than you have ever been.
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Re: "Varosha to open on 1st July?"

Postby kurupetos » Sun Apr 01, 2012 10:45 pm

Viewpoint wrote:And the sheep will follow.

All we need is a good choban. :wink:
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Re: "Varosha to open on 1st July?"

Postby Kikapu » Sun Apr 01, 2012 11:02 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
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No TC has complaint about my BBF plan. Only Turks like you with a Fascist and Racist ideology who cannot accept True Democracy. Too bad for you because in the end, that's exactly what will come to Cyprus. 2004 was the turning point against Fascists like you. You can scream and shout all you want, but in the end, True Democracy will come to all of Cyprus. Turkey can only protect you Fascist for only so long. As soon as she becomes a True Democracy herself in the future, you Fascists in Cyprus will become history. Good Ridden!


Do us all favor and hold your breath, stop playing to the stands 8 years have passed after this so called turning point and you are further from a solution than you have ever been.


Much bigger and much stronger Fascists and Racists of your kind was faced by those who believe and love Democracy, and those Racists and Fascists have been defeated and replaced with True Democracy. You are only a flea on an elephants ass in comparison. You too will be defeated. It's only a matter of time.

The last 8 years has been successful in preventing you in reaching the kind of racists and fascistic solution you have craved for, therefore, the last 8 years has been a successful years, otherwise you would have already achieved your Annan Plan dreams had they not been successful 8 years. You have not achieved anything. You are stuck in a Time Capsule while the rest of Cyprus springs into the future, and now with Gas & Oil!
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Re: "Varosha to open on 1st July?"

Postby Viewpoint » Mon Apr 02, 2012 3:09 pm

Kikapu wrote:
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Kikapu wrote:
No TC has complaint about my BBF plan. Only Turks like you with a Fascist and Racist ideology who cannot accept True Democracy. Too bad for you because in the end, that's exactly what will come to Cyprus. 2004 was the turning point against Fascists like you. You can scream and shout all you want, but in the end, True Democracy will come to all of Cyprus. Turkey can only protect you Fascist for only so long. As soon as she becomes a True Democracy herself in the future, you Fascists in Cyprus will become history. Good Ridden!


Do us all favor and hold your breath, stop playing to the stands 8 years have passed after this so called turning point and you are further from a solution than you have ever been.


Much bigger and much stronger Fascists and Racists of your kind was faced by those who believe and love Democracy, and those Racists and Fascists have been defeated and replaced with True Democracy. You are only a flea on an elephants ass in comparison. You too will be defeated. It's only a matter of time.

The last 8 years has been successful in preventing you in reaching the kind of racists and fascistic solution you have craved for, therefore, the last 8 years has been a successful years, otherwise you would have already achieved your Annan Plan dreams had they not been successful 8 years. You have not achieved anything. You are stuck in a Time Capsule while the rest of Cyprus springs into the future, and now with Gas & Oil!


Not in your or my life time or mine so nothing for you to get excited about.
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Re: "Varosha to open on 1st July?"

Postby Kikapu » Thu Apr 05, 2012 10:43 pm

Few recent quotes from President Gül, specially for the Fascists, such as VP.

Whether Gül is just blowing hot air up peoples skirts with such statement is a another story however!

"I want to emphasize that an advanced democracy does not mean the reflection of the majority’s will … after elections. An advanced democracy is a regime in which fundamental rights and freedoms are preserved on the grounds of the rule of law, which has a check and balance system in terms of all institutions within the constitutional system in which justice prevails without any delay," he said.


"Democracy will soon or later prevail in the region. A democratic regime cannot implement a foreign policy deemed by its own people as unjust, inglorious and humiliating," he said.


http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/turkis ... sCatID=338
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