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[supporttheunderdog]

It's good STUD has reminded us our three lethal enemies...

USA
UK
Turkey

you forgot numbers four and five -
4) Greece - for what it did in 1974 supposedly at the behest of nos 1 and 2 and in alleged cooperation with no 3, which prompted the invasion.
and
5) the Cypriots (a) Greek speaking who conspired with Greece in the Coup and (b) Turkish speaking who acted as lackeys for Turkey .

[supporttheunderdog]

A happy, symbolic day; but also a sad reminder that the struggle for liberation is not finished.

Those days also include April first - Cyprus' own National Day, and July 15th, also July 20th and August 14th.

[kimon07]

Congratulations to Greece in its 180th year as a modern sovereign state, in celebration of acheiving final recognition of Independance from the Ottoman tyranny in 1832.

A small correction. 1828 not 1832.

Mainland Greece was essentially free of Turkish and their allied troops in 1828 but as the very article you quote shows the final recognition of Independance was in the Treaty of Constaninople and the London Protocol in 1832.

Absolutely correct.

It was a I note another imperialist settlement (with Palmerston involved that is no surprise) whereby a foreigner was imposed on Greece as King. The British and French probably only got involved in the way they did as they feared growing Russian Influence.

Well, if you come to think of it, all the big guys of those times rushed in to "help" the revolutionaries only when they realised that the revolution had withstood long enough as to tempt Russia to jump in and appear as the "protector of the Balkan Christians" trying to secure her own access to the Aegean through, mainly, Bulgaria. To that, you can add the increasing influence that the Philhellenes in all of Europe were practicing upon their governments.

By appointing Otto (after having had Kapodistrias murdered) and by granting tow big loans to the newly born state, they were simply securing their absolute control on it for decades to come.

[denizaksulu]

Congratulations to Greece in its 180th year as a modern sovereign state, in celebration of acheiving final recognition of Independance from the Ottoman tyranny in 1832.

A small correction. 1828 not 1832.

Mainland Greece was essentially free of Turkish and their allied troops in 1828 but as the very article you quote shows the final recognition of Independance was in the Treaty of Constaninople and the London Protocol in 1832.

Absolutely correct.

It was a I note another imperialist settlement (with Palmerston involved that is no surprise) whereby a foreigner was imposed on Greece as King. The British and French probably only got involved in the way they did as they feared growing Russian Influence.

Well, if you come to think of it, all the big guys of those times rushed in to "help" the revolutionaries only when they realised that the revolution had withstood long enough as to tempt Russia to jump in and appear as the "protector of the Balkan Christians" trying to secure her own access to the Aegean through, mainly, Bulgaria. To that, you can add the increasing influence that the Philhellenes in all of Europe were practicing upon their governments.

By appointing Otto (after having had Kapodistrias murdered) and by granting tow big loans to the newly born state, they were simply securing their absolute control on it for decades to come.

If not Otto, was there another choice? If so who?

[kurupetos]

Congratulations to Greece in its 180th year as a modern sovereign state, in celebration of acheiving final recognition of Independance from the Ottoman tyranny in 1832.

A small correction. 1828 not 1832.

Mainland Greece was essentially free of Turkish and their allied troops in 1828 but as the very article you quote shows the final recognition of Independance was in the Treaty of Constaninople and the London Protocol in 1832.

Absolutely correct.

It was a I note another imperialist settlement (with Palmerston involved that is no surprise) whereby a foreigner was imposed on Greece as King. The British and French probably only got involved in the way they did as they feared growing Russian Influence.

Well, if you come to think of it, all the big guys of those times rushed in to "help" the revolutionaries only when they realised that the revolution had withstood long enough as to tempt Russia to jump in and appear as the "protector of the Balkan Christians" trying to secure her own access to the Aegean through, mainly, Bulgaria. To that, you can add the increasing influence that the Philhellenes in all of Europe were practicing upon their governments.

By appointing Otto (after having had Kapodistrias murdered) and by granting tow big loans to the newly born state, they were simply securing their absolute control on it for decades to come.

If not Otto, was there another choice? If so who?

True, since I haven't been born yet at the time.

[kurupetos]

It's good STUD has reminded us our three lethal enemies...

USA
UK
Turkey

you forgot numbers four and five -
4) Greece - for what it did in 1974 supposedly at the behest of nos 1 and 2 and in alleged cooperation with no 3, which prompted the invasion.
and
5) the Cypriots (a) Greek speaking who conspired with Greece in the Coup and (b) Turkish speaking who acted as lackeys for Turkey .

Greek Junta, EOKA B and TMT are not countries ol'boy.