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[halil]

UN Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon in his latest report on Cyprus expresses renewed concern over the Greek and Turkish Cypriot leaders’ inability to agree on core issues and that the negotiations are close to a deadlock.
“Despite the leaders’ repeated commitments to intensify the negotiations and push for a conclusion as soon as possible, the fact that there has been such limited movement towards convergence on core issues in recent months is a matter of concern,” said Ban.
“There is no doubt that the political environment in which the negotiations are currently taking place has become increasingly difficult,” he added. “Nonetheless, it is incumbent upon the leaders to foster a more conducive atmosphere for the talks, by refraining from engaging in negative rhetoric about each other and the process and by preserving the confidentiality of the talks. In addition to preserving the integrity of the process, decisive action in this regard would also contribute to building public confidence in its viability which, at present, is low.”
According to Ban,Christofias and Dervis Eroglu should focus their efforts on resolving the outstanding challenges.
“In particular, they must find a way to move beyond the existing deadlock on the election of the executive and advance more definitively on property and citizenship,” said Ban.
He added that while he understood certain aspects on the property issue could not be completely finalised until the maps and figures on territory are ready, the two leaders should at least reach some “simple and clear” common understanding.
“I note with satisfaction that the sides have embarked on the exchange of data on property foreseen in my statement following the second meeting at Greentree,” he said underlining that time was of the essence.
“The time for an agreement is now. The domestic, regional and international context is constantly shifting,” he pointed out. “The current window of opportunity is not limitless and there is little to suggest that the future will bring more propitious circumstances for a settlement. The United Nations remains convinced that if the necessary political will could be mustered on both sides, a durable settlement could be achieved in the interests of all Cypriots.”
Ban, who expressed full confidence in his Special Adviser Alexander Downer and his team to support such an outcome, said there was currently an impasse on the election of the executive.
An approach had been agreed by the two leaders on citizenship, while efforts were being made to reach common understanding on the property issue, he said.
“It is clear to both sides that full agreement on property will ultimately depend on the resolution of the question of territorial adjustment,” he added. “The two sides have agreed that maps and figures will only be discussed in the period leading up to the multilateral conference.”
Another crucial issue for Ban was how a settlement would be incorporated into European Union law, with both sides making proposals, none of which were accepted.
On the chapter of security and guarantees, internal aspects have largely been agreed, said Ban.
He added that it was up to the leaders to ensure negotiations lead to a successful conclusion.
“Accordingly, I have reassured the leaders that the United Nations does not seek to impose solutions. At the same time, I have repeatedly expressed my point of view that the negotiations should not be open-ended, as the longer the talks have been drawn out, the more disillusioned the public has become and the harder it has become to conclude agreements.”

[GreekIslandGirl]

Another crucial issue for Ban was how a settlement would be incorporated into European Union law, with both sides making proposals, none of which were accepted.
On the chapter of security and guarantees, internal aspects have largely been agreed, said Ban.

That's the only crucial issue. But, finally the UN have realized their limitations and admitted the importance of the EU. Now, perhaps things can start to move if we let the EU have a primary role, in problem solving, instead of the anachronistic UN.

[halil]

Another crucial issue for Ban was how a settlement would be incorporated into European Union law, with both sides making proposals, none of which were accepted.
On the chapter of security and guarantees, internal aspects have largely been agreed, said Ban.

That's the only crucial issue. But, finally the UN have realized their limitations and admitted the importance of the EU. Now, perhaps things can start to move if we let the EU have a primary role, in problem solving, instead of the anachronistic UN.

Ban, said how a settlement would be incorporated into European Union law...............that is the important question..........How they can cooparate the new agreement with the EU law....How it will work? Both sides are thinking different on this issue.They are trying to find ways that it will be acceptable for both sides...and EU says if both sides agreed ,it will be primary law of the EU....

[Sotos]

Negotiations are such a waste of time! When somebody steals from you would you negotiate with him to find a solution? Thieves will never give back what they stole unless they are forced to. That is common sense! One must be an idiot to believe that negotiations between the thief and the victim can have a result!

[B25]

Ban Wrote: “There is no doubt that the political environment in which the negotiations are currently taking place has become increasingly difficult,” he added.

Yes, why does he not mention all the threats that Turkey has made upon us? Why does he not realise we are being forced under duress to agree ridiculous proposals? Seems turkey has done it again, escaped being crucified, this is why the UN is corrupt as they come. Completely and totally useless.
A waste of time, we ought to suspend any further talking until the turks withdraw.

[Pyrpolizer]

The UN cannot even impose their own resolutions how do they expect to solve the Cyprus Problem?
Don't they know what the Cyprus problem is, can't they read what it is in their own resolutions?
So what do they do about it?
Playing the perfect mediator by keeping absolutely equal distance between the victim and victimizer (the two sides as they call them LOL) will never bring any results.
Either they develop mechanisms where non abidance to UN resolutions will automatically mean suctions, or they better get dissolved.

The ECHR has proved itself producing more meaningful results than the UN. The UN must develop into something similar. It doesn't need to take military action against anyone, economic suctions are far more effective today.

Anyway the conclusion is:THE CYPRUS PROBLEM CANNOT BE SOLVED BY NEGOTIATIONS. It needs war, and the best type is the economic war.That's what the RoC should do.

[GreekIslandGirl]

Another crucial issue for Ban was how a settlement would be incorporated into European Union law, with both sides making proposals, none of which were accepted.
On the chapter of security and guarantees, internal aspects have largely been agreed, said Ban.

That's the only crucial issue. But, finally the UN have realized their limitations and admitted the importance of the EU. Now, perhaps things can start to move if we let the EU have a primary role, in problem solving, instead of the anachronistic UN.

Ban, said how a settlement would be incorporated into European Union law...............that is the important question..........How they can cooparate the new agreement with the EU law....How it will work? Both sides are thinking different on this issue.They are trying to find ways that it will be acceptable for both sides...and EU says if both sides agreed ,it will be primary law of the EU....

In other words, you are agreeing that the UN should be 'fired' from the negotiations and we should concentrate on bringing in the EU.

[bill cobbett]

Erm... boys and girls, the OP is without a source.

[B25]

The UN cannot even impose their own resolutions how do they expect to solve the Cyprus Problem?
Don't they know what the Cyprus problem is, can't they read what it is in their own resolutions?
So what do they do about it?
Playing the perfect mediator by keeping absolutely equal distance between the victim and victimizer (the two sides as they call them LOL) will never bring any results.
Either they develop mechanisms where non abidance to UN resolutions will automatically mean suctions, or they better get dissolved.

The ECHR has proved itself producing more meaningful results than the UN. The UN must develop into something similar. It doesn't need to take military action against anyone, economic suctions are far more effective today.

Anyway the conclusion is:THE CYPRUS PROBLEM CANNOT BE SOLVED BY NEGOTIATIONS. It needs war, and the best type is the economic war.That's what the RoC should do.

Well, we have had our differences, but amen to that. Totally agree there.

[Sotos]

Erm... boys and girls, the OP is without a source.

He took it from here: http://omphalostisgis.blogspot.com/2012 ... -says.html