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Re: The Secretary-General’s report

Postby Viewpoint » Sat Mar 17, 2012 4:12 pm

humanist wrote:Waiting, waiting, waiting :)


For????
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Re: The Secretary-General’s report

Postby Viewpoint » Sat Mar 17, 2012 4:13 pm

boulio wrote:actually veto rights on everything makes it a racist and unworkable constitiuion.The tc should have had veto rights on curtain things but not everything.education,religion,cultural,foreign policy only about enosis but thats about it.

ps also on any law that treated one community differently

ie the g/c could not come out and say we are taxing the t/c at 50% if the rest of the island is paying 20%


You signed this agreement end of story now you have to take the consequences and thats an equal partnership with TCs.
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Re: The Secretary-General’s report

Postby Viewpoint » Sat Mar 17, 2012 4:20 pm

Pyrpolizer wrote:
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Viewpoint wrote:Pyro your being an hypocrite here when you want enosis everything is fine but when we want the same we are becoming extinct, THE FACT IS OUR MAMA WILL EXTINGUISH US THATS OUR FAULT WE TCs have always had double standards and anything and everything to suit the TCs. Well it dont work that way we chose the Turks (which I have to keep reminding the morons who dont understand that we are as proud of our Turkish roots as you are of your Greek roots) over you in 1974 because we were not happy with the way things were developing in our partnership.... AND WE ARE HAPPY WITH OUR TOWARDS EXTINGUISH PARTNERSHIP WITH THEM with veto rights ON SOME ISSUES it MADE IT SOME SORT OF LIMITED PARTNESHIP WHICH AFTER THE INVASION AND OCCUPATION IT JUST VAPORISED although you refuse to see the reality....my numbers are of no importance HA HA HA EVEN IF WE GET DOWN TO ZERO as your signature sealed your fate to obey this partnership WITH NOBODY which the UN are respecting to this day by listening to both partners SIDES IN SUPERB EFFECTIVENESS MODE . Thats where our rights to live on part of this shared island stems from, dont forget you cannot have a one sided referendum our weight in any decisions with the future of the island as a whole is 50%, BUT BECAUSE THERE WILL BE NO NEGOTIATED SOLUTION THERE WILL BE NO REFERENDUM so wake up and smell the TURKISH coffee my friend. Why dont you embrace it and work with TCs WHO DON"T HAVE A VOICE OF THEIR OWN WHO LIVE ON HANDOUTS FROM TURKEY WHO THE VP's OF THEM DONT EVEN WANT TO HEAR THE GREEK VOICES OF CHILDREN to bring the sides together rather than continuing with your one cell brained friends to push the wedge of intransigence firmly and for ever between the two sides.


I don't know VP. Do you? :wink: :lol: :lol:


Pyro stop playing silly buggers and start answering with clear cut responses. Like it or not according the international law you have a partnership agreement with TCs thats where our rights come from. we have just as much right to this island as you do.
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Re: The Secretary-General’s report

Postby repulsewarrior » Sat Mar 17, 2012 6:04 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
Pyrpolizer wrote:
Pyrpolizer wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:Pyro your being an hypocrite here when you want enosis everything is fine but when we want the same we are becoming extinct, THE FACT IS OUR MAMA WILL EXTINGUISH US THATS OUR FAULT WE TCs have always had double standards and anything and everything to suit the TCs. Well it dont work that way we chose the Turks (which I have to keep reminding the morons who dont understand that we are as proud of our Turkish roots as you are of your Greek roots) over you in 1974 because we were not happy with the way things were developing in our partnership.... AND WE ARE HAPPY WITH OUR TOWARDS EXTINGUISH PARTNERSHIP WITH THEM with veto rights ON SOME ISSUES it MADE IT SOME SORT OF LIMITED PARTNESHIP WHICH AFTER THE INVASION AND OCCUPATION IT JUST VAPORISED although you refuse to see the reality....my numbers are of no importance HA HA HA EVEN IF WE GET DOWN TO ZERO as your signature sealed your fate to obey this partnership WITH NOBODY which the UN are respecting to this day by listening to both partners SIDES IN SUPERB EFFECTIVENESS MODE . Thats where our rights to live on part of this shared island stems from, dont forget you cannot have a one sided referendum our weight in any decisions with the future of the island as a whole is 50%, BUT BECAUSE THERE WILL BE NO NEGOTIATED SOLUTION THERE WILL BE NO REFERENDUM so wake up and smell the TURKISH coffee my friend. Why dont you embrace it and work with TCs WHO DON"T HAVE A VOICE OF THEIR OWN WHO LIVE ON HANDOUTS FROM TURKEY WHO THE VP's OF THEM DONT EVEN WANT TO HEAR THE GREEK VOICES OF CHILDREN to bring the sides together rather than continuing with your one cell brained friends to push the wedge of intransigence firmly and for ever between the two sides.


I don't know VP. Do you? :wink: :lol: :lol:


Pyro stop playing silly buggers and start answering with clear cut responses. Like it or not according the international law you have a partnership agreement with TCs thats where our rights come from. we have just as much right to this island as you do.


...vp, that would be in a Cypriot State.

you on the other hand do not support the notion of BBF...
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Re: The Secretary-General’s report

Postby Viewpoint » Sat Mar 17, 2012 6:51 pm

repulsewarrior wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Pyrpolizer wrote:
Pyrpolizer wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:Pyro your being an hypocrite here when you want enosis everything is fine but when we want the same we are becoming extinct, THE FACT IS OUR MAMA WILL EXTINGUISH US THATS OUR FAULT WE TCs have always had double standards and anything and everything to suit the TCs. Well it dont work that way we chose the Turks (which I have to keep reminding the morons who dont understand that we are as proud of our Turkish roots as you are of your Greek roots) over you in 1974 because we were not happy with the way things were developing in our partnership.... AND WE ARE HAPPY WITH OUR TOWARDS EXTINGUISH PARTNERSHIP WITH THEM with veto rights ON SOME ISSUES it MADE IT SOME SORT OF LIMITED PARTNESHIP WHICH AFTER THE INVASION AND OCCUPATION IT JUST VAPORISED although you refuse to see the reality....my numbers are of no importance HA HA HA EVEN IF WE GET DOWN TO ZERO as your signature sealed your fate to obey this partnership WITH NOBODY which the UN are respecting to this day by listening to both partners SIDES IN SUPERB EFFECTIVENESS MODE . Thats where our rights to live on part of this shared island stems from, dont forget you cannot have a one sided referendum our weight in any decisions with the future of the island as a whole is 50%, BUT BECAUSE THERE WILL BE NO NEGOTIATED SOLUTION THERE WILL BE NO REFERENDUM so wake up and smell the TURKISH coffee my friend. Why dont you embrace it and work with TCs WHO DON"T HAVE A VOICE OF THEIR OWN WHO LIVE ON HANDOUTS FROM TURKEY WHO THE VP's OF THEM DONT EVEN WANT TO HEAR THE GREEK VOICES OF CHILDREN to bring the sides together rather than continuing with your one cell brained friends to push the wedge of intransigence firmly and for ever between the two sides.


I don't know VP. Do you? :wink: :lol: :lol:


Pyro stop playing silly buggers and start answering with clear cut responses. Like it or not according the international law you have a partnership agreement with TCs thats where our rights come from. we have just as much right to this island as you do.


...vp, that would be in a Cypriot State.

you on the other hand do not support the notion of BBF...


Not one where we TCs will be forced to live in a GC state run by GCs where we are a minority.
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Re: The Secretary-General’s report

Postby repulsewarrior » Sun Mar 18, 2012 12:15 am

would you live in a state where Greeks are a minority?

would you permit Turks to live where Greeks are a majority?

...are you prepared for a Society where Individuals make their own choices, and as Persons they can choose to sustain a Distinct Identity?

...do you really understand that as Cypriots we can choose to demonstate, to all Mankind, that we live as Individuals, as Humans, first; or can you not imagine that Greeks are Humans, are they in your mind all "Greeks" and that no "Turks" exist?

again, do you really understand what a BBF is?
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Re: The Secretary-General’s report

Postby repulsewarrior » Sun Mar 18, 2012 12:57 am

...rereading your post, it dawns on me; you are not speaking to me, you are defending your position against a foe. it is ironic vp, that we may be on the same side. but because i am Greek, it seems that any dialog with me is anathema to your sense that "Greeks" are your enemy.

...did all White men hate Blacks before the great revolution in the '60s?

...and are there "Whites" and "Blacks" to this day that are a danger to all of us?

...i would not mind to hear from you personally my old friend. although your woofwoof is a good one, i still do not believe that you are only "Turk".
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Re: The Secretary-General’s report

Postby boulio » Sun Mar 18, 2012 2:23 am

[quote][/You signed this agreement end of story now you have to take the consequences and thats an equal partnership with TCs.quote]


Im sorry vp but the 1960 constituion was signed under duress and threats well documented therefor it is null and void.try again
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Re: The Secretary-General’s report

Postby repulsewarrior » Sun Mar 18, 2012 3:30 am

...actually, the Constitution makes no distinctions about its Citizens, if i remember, except at the Municipal level.
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Re: The Secretary-General’s report

Postby wyoming cowboy » Sun Mar 18, 2012 10:33 am

Viewpoint wrote:
boulio wrote:actually veto rights on everything makes it a racist and unworkable constitiuion.The tc should have had veto rights on curtain things but not everything.education,religion,cultural,foreign policy only about enosis but thats about it.

ps also on any law that treated one community differently

ie the g/c could not come out and say we are taxing the t/c at 50% if the rest of the island is paying 20%


You signed this agreement end of story now you have to take the consequences and thats an equal partnership with TCs.



YOU dont understand the agreement you signed Vp, there is no signed equal agreement even though the tc have a veto, In any constitution there are implied rights. Its implied that the majority have full say, its implied that the minority's rights are protected, its implied that the minority can not rule over the majority......there is no equal partnership in a democracy
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