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[Pyrpolizer]

The UN cannot even impose their own resolutions how do they expect to solve the Cyprus Problem?
Don't they know what the Cyprus problem is, can't they read what it is in their own resolutions?
So what do they do about it?
Playing the perfect mediator by keeping absolutely equal distance between the victim and victimizer (the two sides as they call them LOL) will never bring any results.
Either they develop mechanisms where non abidance to UN resolutions will automatically mean suctions, or they better get dissolved.

The ECHR has proved itself producing more meaningful results than the UN. The UN must develop into something similar. It doesn't need to take military action against anyone, economic suctions are far more effective today.

Anyway the conclusion is:THE CYPRUS PROBLEM CANNOT BE SOLVED BY NEGOTIATIONS. It needs war, and the best type is the economic war.That's what the RoC should do.

Well, we have had our differences, but amen to that. Totally agree there.

I concluded that a long time ago...
And I 've put many ideas down in this forum how things could of change. The above is just one of them.
I don't think there is anybody in Cyprus still believing it would be possible to solve the problem with negotiations between the victim and the victimizer and his local puppets. Not even the UNSG's representative Alexander Downer--> see his recent call on the Kibrislis to revolt.

I still disagree with you however on what should be the aim of our struggle towards a solution.

[B25]

The UN cannot even impose their own resolutions how do they expect to solve the Cyprus Problem?
Don't they know what the Cyprus problem is, can't they read what it is in their own resolutions?
So what do they do about it?
Playing the perfect mediator by keeping absolutely equal distance between the victim and victimizer (the two sides as they call them LOL) will never bring any results.
Either they develop mechanisms where non abidance to UN resolutions will automatically mean suctions, or they better get dissolved.

The ECHR has proved itself producing more meaningful results than the UN. The UN must develop into something similar. It doesn't need to take military action against anyone, economic suctions are far more effective today.

Anyway the conclusion is:THE CYPRUS PROBLEM CANNOT BE SOLVED BY NEGOTIATIONS. It needs war, and the best type is the economic war.That's what the RoC should do.

Well, we have had our differences, but amen to that. Totally agree there.

I concluded that a long time ago...
And I 've put many ideas down in this forum how things could of change. The above is just one of them.
I don't think there is anybody in Cyprus still believing it would be possible to solve the problem with negotiations between the victim and the victimizer and his local puppets. Not even the UNSG's representative Alexander Downer--> see his recent call on the Kibrislis to revolt.

I still disagree with you however on what should be the aim of our struggle towards a solution.

Thats fine, but Pyro, we want the same thing you, I and many others here, it's the way we get to it that is the problem. You are perhaps more tolerent than me and are willing to take the softly softly approach, where as I prefer more decisive action. All the same the end result must be met. Turkish troops out of Cyprus, settlers out of Cyprus, full return of property in both directions and the TCs minority, democratic, humand rights to be protected.

I will not agree to 50,000 TCs wanting to dictate to almost 1m others as this is what got us in this situation in the first place.

The problem is that the TCs have built this imaginary ide that everyone wants them dead, ehich is totally false, as you know, given the numbers that come this side every single day. People like VP,zan, Mr Froggie, and others are pushing for a seperate 'state' that'll never happen and use all sorts of scaremongering techniques to acheive that.

Anyway, you get my drift.

I would like to take this opportunity to apologise to you for some insults I levelled at you recently, it was done in pure anger. Cheers, keep up the good work.

[Viewpoint]

When you realize we are not a minority we are partners, two sides, two people, neither side has the right to dominate the other. Once you get to grips with reality you will understand that you cannot force your will upon us as you did in the past, for which you paid a heavy price.

[Pyrpolizer]

When you realize we are not a minority we are partners, two sides, two people, neither side has the right to dominate the other. Once you get to grips with reality you will understand that you cannot force your will upon us as you did in the past, for which you paid a heavy price.

When you realize you are an arithmetic minority, that you are NOT currently partners in anything let aside on a 50-50 basis, because you sided with the enemy, the other side, the aliens who invaded stole and shared with you our lands and properties, that you have absolutely no right to tell the arithmetic majority what to do and that your word has limited weight, that unless you come back to your senses you will get extinct from Cyprus by your own mama, that will be the time to bother paying any attention to you.

[Viewpoint]

Pyro your being an hypocrite here when you want enosis everything is fine but when we want the same we are becoming extinct, you GCs have always had double standards and anything and everything to suit the GCs. Well it dont work that way we chose the Turks (which I have to keep reminding the morons who dont understand that we are as proud of our Turkish roots as you are of your Greek roots) over you in 1974 because we were not happy with the way things were developing in our partnership....with veto rights it makes it a partnership although you refuse to see the reality....my numbers are of no importance as your signature sealed your fate to obey this partnership which the UN are respecting to this day by listening to both partners. Thats where our rights to live on part of this shared island stems from, dont forget you cannot have a one sided referendum our weight in any decisions with the future of the island as a whole is 50%, so wake up and smell the TURKISH coffee my friend. Why dont you embrace it and work with TCs to bring the sides together rather than continuing with your one cell brained friends to push the wedge of intransigence firmly and for ever between the two sides.

[boulio]

actually veto rights on everything makes it a racist and unworkable constitiuion.The tc should have had veto rights on curtain things but not everything.education,religion,cultural,foreign policy only about enosis but thats about it.

ps also on any law that treated one community differently

ie the g/c could not come out and say we are taxing the t/c at 50% if the rest of the island is paying 20%

[Pyrpolizer]

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[Pyrpolizer]

Pyro your being an hypocrite here when you want enosis everything is fine but when we want the same we are becoming extinct, THE FACT IS OUR MAMA WILL EXTINGUISH US THATS OUR FAULT WE TCs have always had double standards and anything and everything to suit the TCs. Well it dont work that way we chose the Turks (which I have to keep reminding the morons who dont understand that we are as proud of our Turkish roots as you are of your Greek roots) over you in 1974 because we were not happy with the way things were developing in our partnership.... AND WE ARE HAPPY WITH OUR TOWARDS EXTINGUISH PARTNERSHIP WITH THEM with veto rights ON SOME ISSUES it MADE IT SOME SORT OF LIMITED PARTNESHIP WHICH AFTER THE INVASION AND OCCUPATION IT JUST VAPORISED although you refuse to see the reality....my numbers are of no importance HA HA HA EVEN IF WE GET DOWN TO ZERO as your signature sealed your fate to obey this partnership WITH NOBODY which the UN are respecting to this day by listening to both partners SIDES IN SUPERB EFFECTIVENESS MODE . Thats where our rights to live on part of this shared island stems from, dont forget you cannot have a one sided referendum our weight in any decisions with the future of the island as a whole is 50%, BUT BECAUSE THERE WILL BE NO NEGOTIATED SOLUTION THERE WILL BE NO REFERENDUM so wake up and smell the TURKISH coffee my friend. Why dont you embrace it and work with TCs WHO DON"T HAVE A VOICE OF THEIR OWN WHO LIVE ON HANDOUTS FROM TURKEY WHO THE VP's OF THEM DONT EVEN WANT TO HEAR THE GREEK VOICES OF CHILDREN to bring the sides together rather than continuing with your one cell brained friends to push the wedge of intransigence firmly and for ever between the two sides.

I don't know VP. Do you?

[GreekIslandGirl]

When you realize we are not a minority we are partners, two sides, two people, neither side has the right to dominate the other. Once you get to grips with reality you will understand that you cannot force your will upon us as you did in the past, for which you paid a heavy price.

You need to realise this is ONE country and none of it belongs to Turkey or her offspring.

[humanist]

Waiting, waiting, waiting