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[supporttheunderdog]

GIG, you speak and write English, but no doubt you would no doubt be deeply insulted if you were to be called English or described as Anglicised.

Greek was the international language of the Eastern med, used in trade and commerce, etc. just as English is so widely used as an international language: the fact that people may have been competent in Greek does not make them Greek - it does not necessarily even make them Hellenised.

Jesus was Jew as were the 12 apostles and the original disciples. Jesus preached a refined version of Rabbinical Judaism: he probably did not intend to start a new faith. He and the apostles almost certainly preached mostly in a version of Aramaic, a Semitic language.

Christianty quickly spread to non jews and the Greek language was probably the best common tongue:

[GreekIslandGirl]

Here's something else about the Hellenised Jews at the time of Barnabas. Change that if you can.

Without a link I'm not even gonna bother to read it.

I added the link.

Here's more:

Barnabas was born in Cyprus to Jews of Diaspora, people who had been carried far from their homeland by persecution, but who managed at last to return to Jerusalem. This indicates that they were people of means. (Travel alone was expensive.) They were Hellenized Jews, because Barnabas is "son of Nebo", and that is a Greek form of a Hebrew name. It means "son of Encouragement", or "Consolation".

http://www.stbarnabasborrego.org/StBarn ... rnabas.htm

Saint Barnabas, original name Joseph The Levite, or Joses The Levite (flourished 1st century; feast day June 11), Apostolic Father, an important early Christian missionary.
Barnabas was a hellenized Jew who joined the Jerusalem church soon after Christ’s crucifixion, sold his property, and gave the proceeds to the community (Acts 4:36–37). He was one of the Cypriots who founded (Acts 11:19–20) the church in Antioch, where he preached. After he called Paul from Tarsus as his assistant (Acts 11:25), they undertook joint missionary activity (Acts 13–14) and then went to Jerusalem in 48. Shortly afterward, a serious conflict ... (100 of 267 words)

http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/top ... t-Barnabas

- Hellenized Jews
Large numbers of Jews lived outside Palestine in the first century. These are the Jews of the Diaspora, the "scattering," or "exile" of the Jews throughout the Greek world - first in 722 BC when the Assyrians declared war and conquered the northern kingdom of Israel, then in 588 BC the Chaldeans conquered the southern kingdom of Judah. The victors in both instances forced the Jews to be relocated, thus diluting their national and cultural strength. Over the next few centuries the Hebrew language was neglected and forgotten by these exiled Jews. Most diaspora Jews of the first century spoke Greek. In fact, sometime in the third century BC the Jewish scriptures (Old Testament, OT) were translated from Hebrew into Greek so that these Greek-speaking Jews could hear and understand the Law of Moses. This famous translation is known as the Septuagint (or LXX), a reference to the legendary story that 72 scribes translated the various texts in a 72 day period with a divinely inspired perfection of agreement.

These Jews of the diaspora were referred to as "Hellenized" ("Greek influenced") by the politically important, Hebrew-speaking Jews of Palestine. Palestinian Jews despised this Hellenization and these Hellenized Jews, believing they had compromised their religion. They could not speak Hebrew, God's language, nor could they understand the Law of Moses when read in Hebrew. When Hellenized Jews came to Jerusalem they were urged to attend Greek speaking synagogues so they could hear and understand Moses being read. They were not wanted in the Temple. We know that the Jews hated Samaritans, and were not fond of Gentiles. Luke tells us this prejudice found its way into the primitive church - Hellenized widows were being neglected.

http://www.churchhistory101.com/century1-p2.php

And so it goes on. You have a hard job ahead, changing all of that history, GR! Let's hope the Turks you influence do not have your staying power.

[GreekIslandGirl]

GIG, you speak and write English, but no doubt you would no doubt be deeply insulted if you were to be called English or described as Anglicised.

Greek was the international language of the Eastern med, used in trade and commerce, etc. just as English is so widely used as an international language: the fact that people may have been competent in Greek does not make them Greek - it does not necessarily even make them Hellenised.

Jesus was Jew as were the 12 apostles and the original disciples. Jesus preached a refined version of Rabbinical Judaism: he probably did not intend to start a new faith. He and the apostles almost certainly preached mostly in a version of Aramaic, a Semitic language.

Christianty quickly spread to non jews and the Greek language was probably the best common tongue:

You need to sort out your mess about the Phoenicians (Page 5), mister, before you entangle yourself in another!

[Get Real!]

His Hellenic Jewish parents called him Joseph (although the Byzantine text-type calls him Ιὠσης, Iōsēs, 'Joses', a Greek variant of 'Joseph'), but when he sold all his goods and gave the money to the apostles in Jerusalem, they gave him a new name: Barnabas. This name appears to be from the Aramaic בר נביא, bar naḇyā, meaning 'the son (of the) prophet'. However, the Greek text of the Acts 4:36 explains the name as υἱός παρακλήσεως, hyios paraklēseōs, meaning "son of consolation" or "son of encouragement". A similar link between ”prophecy” and ”encouragement” is found in Paul’s letter to the Corinthians (1 Corinthians 14:3)


there argument over he was a Hellenic Jew....

Come again in English...

[Get Real!]

Barnabas was born in Cyprus to Jews of Diaspora...

End of story.

[Get Real!]

Born in Cyprus, taught in Cyprus, lived in Cyprus…a true Cypriot!

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[wyoming cowboy]

GIG, you speak and write English, but no doubt you would no doubt be deeply insulted if you were to be called English or described as Anglicised.

Greek was the international language of the Eastern med, used in trade and commerce, etc. just as English is so widely used as an international language: the fact that people may have been competent in Greek does not make them Greek - it does not necessarily even make them Hellenised.

Jesus was Jew as were the 12 apostles and the original disciples. Jesus preached a refined version of Rabbinical Judaism: he probably did not intend to start a new faith. He and the apostles almost certainly preached mostly in a version of Aramaic, a Semitic language.

Christianty quickly spread to non jews and the Greek language was probably the best common tongue:

Since Greek was the best common tongue of the times, and there arent any records of Jewish Jesus between the age of 16 and 30, could it be possible that he also spoke Greek read Socrates/Plato and combined his Jewish faith with the Greek philosophy.

[Get Real!]

Since Greek was the best common tongue of the times, and there arent any records of Jewish Jesus between the age of 16 and 30, could it be possible that he also spoke Greek read Socrates/Plato and combined his Jewish faith with the Greek philosophy.

Could it be that your brain jumped out the window and flew away while you were writing that?

NB: My speculation is as valid a speculation as yours.

[wyoming cowboy]

Of old the Hellenic race was marked off from the barbarian as more keen witted and more free from nonsense.

Herodotus I:60



GR you spew nonsense, there is no relevance if Barnabas was a jew, greek, turk whatever.....he was nothing more then a mimic, of Ancient Greek thought.....although his Commandaria still lives on to this day.

[GreekIslandGirl]

Born in Cyprus, taught in Cyprus, lived in Cyprus…a true Cypriot!

.... but who managed at last to return to Jerusalem.

Amen!