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Re: Rebranding Greece

Postby Get Real! » Sun Mar 11, 2012 9:44 pm

FOR SALE:

One fine tagline…

“Barnabas was a Hellenised Jew!”

Out it goes to the highest bidder! 8)

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Re: Rebranding Greece

Postby GreekIslandGirl » Sun Mar 11, 2012 10:46 pm

Get Real! wrote:FOR SALE:

One fine tagline…

“Barnabas was a Hellenised Jew!”

Out it goes to the highest bidder! 8)

Apply within!


"Barnabas (Ancient Greek: Βαρναβᾶς), born Joseph, was an Early Christian, one of the earliest Christian disciples in Jerusalem.[2][3] In terms of culture and background, he was a Hellenised Jew," http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barnabas
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Re: Rebranding Greece

Postby Get Real! » Mon Mar 12, 2012 12:14 am

GreekIslandGirl wrote:
Get Real! wrote:FOR SALE:

One fine tagline…

“Barnabas was a Hellenised Jew!”

Out it goes to the highest bidder! 8)

Apply within!


"Barnabas (Ancient Greek: Βαρναβᾶς), born Joseph, was an Early Christian, one of the earliest Christian disciples in Jerusalem.[2][3] In terms of culture and background, he was a Hellenised Jew," http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barnabas

There you go! I’ve just changed it for you and supplied credible evidence to Wiki…

Barnabas (Ancient Greek: Βαρναβᾶς), born Joseph, was an Early Christian, one of the earliest Christian disciples in Jerusalem.[2][3] According to Acts 4:36 Barnabas was a Cypriot Jew. Named an apostle in Acts 14:14, he and Saint Paul undertook missionary journeys


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barnabas

PS: I don't recommend you use the Wiki for political arguments. :)
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Re: Rebranding Greece

Postby wyoming cowboy » Mon Mar 12, 2012 12:22 am

Why is it that important if Barnabas was a jew or Greek, whichever he was, he was trying to follow Greek thought with some added forms of control. thats the point a serious argument should be based on....damn 4 pages, of pointless arguments, even after I had my great Epiphany...whats wrong with you people?
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Re: Rebranding Greece

Postby GreekIslandGirl » Mon Mar 12, 2012 12:26 am

Get Real! wrote:
GreekIslandGirl wrote:
Get Real! wrote:FOR SALE:

One fine tagline…

“Barnabas was a Hellenised Jew!”

Out it goes to the highest bidder! 8)

Apply within!


"Barnabas (Ancient Greek: Βαρναβᾶς), born Joseph, was an Early Christian, one of the earliest Christian disciples in Jerusalem.[2][3] In terms of culture and background, he was a Hellenised Jew," http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barnabas

There you go! I’ve just changed it for you and supplied credible evidence to Wiki…

Barnabas (Ancient Greek: Βαρναβᾶς), born Joseph, was an Early Christian, one of the earliest Christian disciples in Jerusalem.[2][3] According to Acts 4:36 Barnabas was a Cypriot Jew. Named an apostle in Acts 14:14, he and Saint Paul undertook missionary journeys


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barnabas

PS: I don't recommend you use the Wiki for political arguments. :)


You get what you deserve. I thought you'd given up on political arguments and credible evidence in lieu of whatever lies and gossip you can make up. Wiki is your playhouse, I see.

Here's something else about the Hellenised Jews at the time of Barnabas. Change that if you can.

The ministry of the Apostles continued exclusively among the Jews. They were imprisoned but miraculously escaped, and an angel said to him "Go, stand and speak in the Temple to the people all the words of this life". (Acts 5:20). They went straight back to the Temple to preach, even though they had been told by the High Priest and the council not to do so.

Then there was the problem of the daily distribution to the widows. The Greeks were complaining against the Hebrews because they were being neglected. These were Greek-speaking Jews, not Gentiles. There is no mention of Gentiles appearing on the scene yet. It appears that the Greek-speaking Jews were considered to be rather Hellenised, inferior, and not as observant as the Hebrew-speaking Jews, so they were neglected and the situation had to be rectified. (Acts 6:1).

When Stephen was called before the High Priest and the council, he gave a defence that was thoroughly Jewish, all about the history of Israel, and then he was stoned. (Acts 7).

When Stephen was stoned, there was a persecution of the church in Jerusalem so that the Believers were scattered all over Judea and Samaria, but everywhere they went they preached the Word. (Acts 8:1-4). This event is referred to again later in the context of Peter's vision, his visit to Cornelius, and how the Holy Spirit had fallen on the Gentiles. It says that the Believers who were scattered because of the persecution went as far as Phenice, Cyprus and Antioch, preaching the Word only to the Jews. Some other people from Cyprus and Cyrene, presumably second generation converts who had not been dispersed from Jerusalem, went to Antioch and preached to the Greeks, and in this case they were Gentiles, not Greek-speaking Jews. (Acts 11:19-20).

When news of this reached the church in Jerusalem, they sent Barnabas to Antioch. It's not clear whether they sent him for ministry and encouragement, or to conduct an investigation, but Barnabas liked what he saw and promptly went to Tarsus to get Paul, and they worked together building up the church. (Acts 11:22-26).
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Re: Rebranding Greece

Postby Get Real! » Mon Mar 12, 2012 12:30 am

wyoming cowboy wrote:Why is it that important if Barnabas was a jew or Greek, whichever he was, he was trying to follow Greek thought with some added forms of control. thats the point a serious argument should be based on....damn 4 pages, of pointless arguments, even after I had my great Epiphany...whats wrong with you people?

Because Cyprus should be getting credit for her famous people not Greece!

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Re: Rebranding Greece

Postby GreekIslandGirl » Mon Mar 12, 2012 12:31 am

wyoming cowboy wrote:Why is it that important if Barnabas was a jew or Greek, whichever he was, he was trying to follow Greek thought with some added forms of control. thats the point a serious argument should be based on....damn 4 pages, of pointless arguments, even after I had my great Epiphany...whats wrong with you people?



It's of no relevance. It's just GR!'s face-saving diversionary tactics.

- It's worth playing along as he inadvertently reveals more of how shamelessly he changes evidence ...
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Re: Rebranding Greece

Postby Get Real! » Mon Mar 12, 2012 12:33 am

GreekIslandGirl wrote:Here's something else about the Hellenised Jews at the time of Barnabas. Change that if you can.

Without a link I'm not even gonna bother to read it.
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Re: Rebranding Greece

Postby Get Real! » Mon Mar 12, 2012 12:36 am

GreekIslandGirl wrote:
wyoming cowboy wrote:Why is it that important if Barnabas was a jew or Greek, whichever he was, he was trying to follow Greek thought with some added forms of control. thats the point a serious argument should be based on....damn 4 pages, of pointless arguments, even after I had my great Epiphany...whats wrong with you people?



It's of no relevance. It's just GR!'s face-saving diversionary tactics.

- It's worth playing along as he inadvertently reveals more of how shamelessly he changes evidence ...

You’re hell bent into demoting Cyprus to a Greek community when in fact it was Cyprus that turned you uneducated Slavic vandals into men!
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Re: Rebranding Greece

Postby wyoming cowboy » Mon Mar 12, 2012 12:40 am

His Hellenic Jewish parents called him Joseph (although the Byzantine text-type calls him Ιὠσης, Iōsēs, 'Joses', a Greek variant of 'Joseph'), but when he sold all his goods and gave the money to the apostles in Jerusalem, they gave him a new name: Barnabas. This name appears to be from the Aramaic בר נביא, bar naḇyā, meaning 'the son (of the) prophet'. However, the Greek text of the Acts 4:36 explains the name as υἱός παρακλήσεως, hyios paraklēseōs, meaning "son of consolation" or "son of encouragement". A similar link between ”prophecy” and ”encouragement” is found in Paul’s letter to the Corinthians (1 Corinthians 14:3)


there argument over he was a Hellenic Jew....
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