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[GreekIslandGirl]

Just as England is 100% British, so then Cyprus is 100% Greek. Both have immigrants.

Oh I get it...

England = Greece
Wales = Crete
N.Ireland = Corfu
Scotland = Cyprus
Eire = Turkey

Am I on the right track?

Not bad - but Turkey doesn't fit in.

[Get Real!]

Just as England is 100% British, so then Cyprus is 100% Greek. Both have immigrants.

Oh I get it...

England = Greece
Wales = Crete
N.Ireland = Corfu
Scotland = Cyprus
Eire = Turkey

Am I on the right track?

Not bad - but Turkey doesn't fit in.

I thought I'd link the "bad guys"... no?

[Bananiot]

Bloody simpletons, they could not divide a stack of hay between two donkeys.

[kurupetos]

Bloody simpletons, they could not divide a stack of hay between two donkeys.

Don't worry, I will feed you.

[Pyrpolizer]

What does it mean "politically they are a community"? Is there any UN definition of "communities"?

It means our own political basis aka our constitution calls THEM and US a "community".

[Viewpoint]

...greekgirl has her opinions, i have mine. the difference between you and her is that she does not deny that as Individuals we are all Humans, i have no confidence that you feel that way. she has, in the past, at least attempted to be objective about my position, you on the otherhand have not. you are always busy telling us, whether we are Greek, "Greek", or Turkish, what we think, she expresses her own opinions as her own opinions.

...furthermore, i concern myself with Cyprus and Cypriot affairs, your deflections relating to Greece mean very little to me, except that they are an indication of the desperate nature of your position.

So Greek girl claiming that Cyprus is greek is not a problem but my we should not force ones will on the other is, well this says a lot more about your own perspective than mine...your real face has been revealed.

[Pyrpolizer]

Just as England is 100% British, so then Cyprus is 100% Greek. Both have immigrants.

LOL what a fallacious argument!

You actually mean the people living in the "United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland" not in England don't you? If yes then that comprises of people from 4 different Nationalities i.e from Scotland, Wales,England and Northern Ireland. Yes they are ALL called BRITISH the same way we are called CYPRIOTS.

Jumping to the conclusion that because they are all called British (just like we are all called Cypriots) means that Cyprus is Greek is beyond my comprehending abilities.

[Pyrpolizer]

That gave me an idea. Why don't we call our selves Bribrish or GreeTrish?.

I mean are the British the only ones who can invent names of what they are?

[GreekIslandGirl]

Just as England is 100% British, so then Cyprus is 100% Greek. Both have immigrants.

LOL what a fallacious argument!

You actually mean the people living in the "United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland" not in England don't you? If yes then that comprises of people from 4 different Nationalities i.e from Scotland, Wales,England and Northern Ireland. Yes they are ALL called BRITISH the same way we are called CYPRIOTS.

Jumping to the conclusion that because they are all called British (just like we are all called Cypriots) means that Cyprus is Greek is beyond my comprehending abilities.

Where is the fallacy? You've expanded just right . The United Kingdom is the equivalent of (let's say) the United Hellenedom (which was denied us), comprising all the Greek-inhabited territories, islands and mainland. The native inhabitants of Cyprus are Greek (equivalent to those natives that are English), otherwise they are immigrants. In which case, if they reside in Cyprus, they can have "Cypriot", equivalent to being a "British" immigrant in England. Of course, you can be both 'native English' and British just like you can be both Cypriot and 'native Greek'. Cyprus keeps its independence, but remains part of the United Hellenedom, and hence retains its all-important EU veto.

Anyway, each place is unique and Cyprus has been Greek since (even before) recorded history left its mark. Hopefully, those idiots who deny that Cyprus can be, and happens to be, Greek, will think twice about making claims that it's not.

[Pyrpolizer]

Just as England is 100% British, so then Cyprus is 100% Greek. Both have immigrants.

LOL what a fallacious argument!

You actually mean the people living in the "United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland" not in England don't you? If yes then that comprises of people from 4 different Nationalities i.e from Scotland, Wales,England and Northern Ireland. Yes they are ALL called BRITISH the same way we are called CYPRIOTS.

Jumping to the conclusion that because they are all called British (just like we are all called Cypriots) means that Cyprus is Greek is beyond my comprehending abilities.

Where is the fallacy? You've expanded just right . The United Kingdom is the equivalent of (let's say) the United Hellenedom (which was denied us), comprising all the Greek-inhabited territories, islands and mainland. The native inhabitants of Cyprus are Greek (equivalent to those natives that are English), otherwise they are immigrants. In which case, if they reside in Cyprus, they can have "Cypriot", equivalent to being a "British" immigrant in England. Of course, you can be both 'native English' and British just like you can be both Cypriot and 'native Greek'. Cyprus keeps its independence, but remains part of the United Hellenedom, and hence retains its all-important EU veto.

Anyway, each place is unique and Cyprus has been Greek since (even before) recorded history left its mark. Hopefully, those idiots who deny that Cyprus can be, and happens to be, Greek, will think twice about making claims that it's not.

But this is where you are wrong. This United Hellenedom never existed.If it ever existed it could even have parts of Egypt in it!! For one reason or another we became an independent nation in 1960. If we were part of the Hellenic state then surely the Kibrislis would be an insignificant minority to the total, and Cyprus would certainly be called a Greek island just like Rhodes who still has some 10% Turks.

You are wrong on other points too for example the natives of Cyprus were not actually Greek. Ask GR for further info. The Greeks arrived later and their culture prevailed because it was superior to that of the natives. Then we had Venetians, Francs Ottomans and British here. The population ended to the figures of 78% Kypreoi, 4% others and 18% Kibrislis when we established out state. Therefore we became all Cypriots and Cyprus became what it is.And it is neither Greek nor Turkish.