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Re: Kibrislis Vs Settlers

Postby Sotos » Mon Mar 05, 2012 1:34 pm

Pyrpolizer wrote:
Why illogical? If Cyprus is 100% Greek then what are the Kibrislis? Greek? Invaders? Turks of Cyprus? Guests? What? :roll:
Educate me please. :P


ethnic minority ;)
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Re: Kibrislis Vs Settlers

Postby Bananiot » Mon Mar 05, 2012 1:47 pm

Is this what the agreement that bears our signature of 1959 says?
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Re: Kibrislis Vs Settlers

Postby Sotos » Mon Mar 05, 2012 2:23 pm

Bananiot wrote:Is this what the agreement that bears our signature of 1959 says?

Does it say that they are not an ethnic minority? Where?
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Re: Kibrislis Vs Settlers

Postby Pyrpolizer » Mon Mar 05, 2012 2:28 pm

Sotos wrote:
Pyrpolizer wrote:
Why illogical? If Cyprus is 100% Greek then what are the Kibrislis? Greek? Invaders? Turks of Cyprus? Guests? What? :roll:
Educate me please. :P


ethnic minority ;)


The problem IS Sotos, that there is no UN or EU or whatever political definition of what a minority is and at what percentage it stops to be a minority and starts to be a community or a substantial population entity of something. So the question is at what percentage a population is no longer a political minority at 4% , 5%, 15%, 49%? :?: :idea:

Hope you don;t confuse the terms Political with Arithmetic minority, because Arithmetically even a 49% is a minority Vs the 51%, however Politically it is not.

Like Bananiot told you WE OURSELVES have accepted that the 18% of Kibrislis are not a minority in political terms but a community with our OWN signature in the 1960 agreements. Furthermore with our agreement for a BBF.

Therefore the question still remains. If Cyprus is 100% Greek and the Kibrislis are not politically a minority, then what the hell are they? Greek, Invaders, guests, Aliens from Mars, what? :roll:
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Re: Kibrislis Vs Settlers

Postby Sotos » Mon Mar 05, 2012 2:34 pm

Pyrpolizer wrote:
Sotos wrote:
Pyrpolizer wrote:
Why illogical? If Cyprus is 100% Greek then what are the Kibrislis? Greek? Invaders? Turks of Cyprus? Guests? What? :roll:
Educate me please. :P


ethnic minority ;)


The problem IS Sotos, that there is no UN or EU or whatever political definition of what a minority is and at what percentage it stops to be a minority and starts to be a community or a substantial population entity of something. So the question is at what percentage a population is no longer a minority at 4% , 5%, 15%, 49%? :?: :idea:
Like Bananiot told you WE OURSELVES have accepted that the 18% of Kibrislis are not a minority in political terms but a community with our OWN signature in the 1960 agreements. Furthermore with our agreement for a BBF.

Therefore the question still remains. If Cyprus is 100% Greek and the Kibrislis are not politically a minority, then what the hell are they? Greek, Invaders, guests, Aliens from Mars, what? :roll:


What is the percentage of Kurds in Turkey? Show me our signature under something that says "TCs are not a minority"! If you search "Turkish community in..." you will find 10s of cities and countries with Turkish minorities! Because they are a community it doesn't mean they are not a minority :roll:
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Re: Kibrislis Vs Settlers

Postby Pyrpolizer » Mon Mar 05, 2012 2:46 pm

Sotos wrote:
Pyrpolizer wrote:
Sotos wrote:
Pyrpolizer wrote:
Why illogical? If Cyprus is 100% Greek then what are the Kibrislis? Greek? Invaders? Turks of Cyprus? Guests? What? :roll:
Educate me please. :P


ethnic minority ;)


The problem IS Sotos, that there is no UN or EU or whatever political definition of what a minority is and at what percentage it stops to be a minority and starts to be a community or a substantial population entity of something. So the question is at what percentage a population is no longer a minority at 4% , 5%, 15%, 49%? :?: :idea:
Like Bananiot told you WE OURSELVES have accepted that the 18% of Kibrislis are not a minority in political terms but a community with our OWN signature in the 1960 agreements. Furthermore with our agreement for a BBF.

Therefore the question still remains. If Cyprus is 100% Greek and the Kibrislis are not politically a minority, then what the hell are they? Greek, Invaders, guests, Aliens from Mars, what? :roll:


What is the percentage of Kurds in Turkey? Show me our signature under something that says "TCs are not a minority"! If you search "Turkish community in..." you will find 10s of cities and countries with Turkish minorities! Because they are a community it doesn't mean they are not a minority :roll:


LOL you said it yourself!! They are an ARITHMETIC MINORITY alright, but Politically they are a COMMUNITY. This gives them Political rights ABOVE their arithmetic percentage!

AND in addition to that both polically and arithmetically Cyprus is NOT 100% Greek. I would say Cyprus consists of 78% Greek Speaking Cypriots, 4% Latins Maronites etc, and 18% Kibrislis or Turkish speaking Cypriots.
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Re: Kibrislis Vs Settlers

Postby GreekIslandGirl » Mon Mar 05, 2012 3:19 pm

Just as England is 100% British, so then Cyprus is 100% Greek. Both have immigrants.
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Re: Kibrislis Vs Settlers

Postby Sotos » Mon Mar 05, 2012 3:21 pm

What does it mean "politically they are a community"? Is there any UN definition of "communities"? :roll:
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Re: Kibrislis Vs Settlers

Postby Get Real! » Mon Mar 05, 2012 3:22 pm

GreekIslandGirl wrote:Just as England is 100% British, so then Cyprus is 100% Greek. Both have immigrants.

Oh I get it... :)

England = Greece
Wales = Crete
N.Ireland = Corfu
Scotland = Cyprus
Eire = Turkey

Am I on the right track? :?
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Re: Kibrislis Vs Settlers

Postby GreekIslandGirl » Mon Mar 05, 2012 3:27 pm

Pyrpolizer wrote:
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Pyro, I don't buy into this equalizing opposites illogical malarkey. Just because Cyprus was, and is Greek, it does not mean we have to entertain the same thinking for any invader who cares to strut his stuff by force.

So there's no 'black and white' thinking. Just common sense. Cyprus is Greek. The invaders are Turks. We just have to restore the balance of power back to the RoC over 100% of the island.


Why illogical? If Cyprus is 100% Greek then what are the Kibrislis? Greek? Invaders? Turks of Cyprus? Guests? What? :roll:
Educate me please. :P


Reh, it's so simple, I don't know why you are so confused.

As I said earlier; if England can be 100% British, why can't Cyprus be 100% Greek? Both have immigrants (recent and older) who speak other languages and pray to other gods. It's no big deal in this day and age. So long as people are willing to practice democracy, everyone can get on with their lives.
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