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Are Unidentified Skeletons in Turkish Prison Greek Cypriots?

Thu, 01/03/2012 - 11:57 — Savvas Hadjigeorgiou

Respected activist and politican MEP Eleni Theocharous has raised the issue of the thirty-eight skeletons found in the prison of Diyarbakir in Turkey, asking the European Parliament’s Foreign Affairs Committee for assistance in determining whether they belong to Greek Cypriot prisoners of war from the 1974 Turkish invasion of Cyprus.

Theoharous said according to information, at the time prisoners of war were transported from Cyprus to the specific prison and they were never returned.

“The issue is of a humanitarian nature” said the MP, adding “you realize the agony created to the relatives of missing persons in Cyprus after this information was released."

The 38 skeletons had been executed with 9mm bullets to the head, she pointed out and based on DNA tests, have not been identified as belonging to Turkish or Kurdish prisoners.

Her request for assistance was accepted by the Committee and its Chairman Elmar Brok, instructed Ria Oomen-Ruijten, European Parliament's rapporteur on to meet with the Permanent Representative of Turkey to the EU to discuss and investigate the issue.
http://www.cyprusnewsreport.com/?q=node/5409


Watch the speech:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cWuwDK3gjQ

[Get Real!]

The 38 skeletons had been executed with 9mm bullets to the head,

The world’s militaries don't use that caliber. These are mainly sporting pistols.

[GreekIslandGirl]

The 38 skeletons had been executed with 9mm bullets to the head,

The world’s militaries don't use that caliber. These are mainly sporting pistols.

Do you think the Turks care which weapons they use?

[Get Real!]

The 38 skeletons had been executed with 9mm bullets to the head,

The world’s militaries don't use that caliber. These are mainly sporting pistols.

Do you think the Turks care which weapons they use?

No self respecting military executioner would use 9mm junk. I’d first suspect a trigger happy civilian gone on a rampage during one of Turkey’s coups.

[GreekIslandGirl]

The 38 skeletons had been executed with 9mm bullets to the head,

The world’s militaries don't use that caliber. These are mainly sporting pistols.

Do you think the Turks care which weapons they use?

No self respecting military executioner would use 9mm junk. I’d first suspect a trigger happy civilian gone on a rampage during one of Turkey’s coups.

Sorry, GR! - this isn't my area, but Diyarbakir prison was NOT a military prison; so I don't think "self-respecting military executioner" ( ) comes into it. Also, the MEP, Eleni Theocharou (on R's youtube link), said these 'executions' (murders IMO) were similar to those carried out in Cyprus against GCs by the Turks.

[Get Real!]

The 38 skeletons had been executed with 9mm bullets to the head,

The world’s militaries don't use that caliber. These are mainly sporting pistols.

Do you think the Turks care which weapons they use?

No self respecting military executioner would use 9mm junk. I’d first suspect a trigger happy civilian gone on a rampage during one of Turkey’s coups.

Sorry, GR! - this isn't my area, but Diyarbakir prison was NOT a military prison; so I don't think "self-respecting military executioner" ( ) comes into it. Also, the MEP, Eleni Theocharou (on R's youtube link), said these 'executions' (murders IMO) were similar to those carried out in Cyprus against GCs by the Turks.

Sure… military prisons are typically very small and only used by MPs to punish one’s own insubordinate soldiers for very short periods of time…usually 1..3 days of incarceration. So yes, it would have to be a civilian prison set aside to contain hundreds of prisoners of war with authority handed over to the military.

As for the similarity of the executions... in how many ways can you shoot someone in the head?

[GreekIslandGirl]

The world’s militaries don't use that caliber. These are mainly sporting pistols.

Do you think the Turks care which weapons they use?

No self respecting military executioner would use 9mm junk. I’d first suspect a trigger happy civilian gone on a rampage during one of Turkey’s coups.

Sorry, GR! - this isn't my area, but Diyarbakir prison was NOT a military prison; so I don't think "self-respecting military executioner" ( ) comes into it. Also, the MEP, Eleni Theocharou (on R's youtube link), said these 'executions' (murders IMO) were similar to those carried out in Cyprus against GCs by the Turks.

Sure… military prisons are typically very small and only used by MPs to punish one’s own insubordinate soldiers for very short periods of time…usually 1..3 days of incarceration. So yes, it would have to be a civilian prison set aside to contain hundreds of prisoners of war with authority handed over to the military.

As for the similarity of the executions... in how many ways can you shoot someone in the head?

There's nothing in the history of that prison which suggests it was ever handed over to the Military. Secondly there were 200 GCs potentially placed there and it has a history of being overcrowded so such an extra number wouldn't bother them.

As for similarities; maybe the clue is in the 9mm. Looked that up (great, now Google are going to show me adverts of guns) and it was assigned to a Beretta (Turkish) pistol - which is just the sort of thing they would pull out to 'execute' somebody.

Anyway, the point is that Turkey needs to comply with the request for independent DNA testing.

[bill cobbett]

Absolutely... 9mm Berretta or Bow and Arrow.... these pour souls were shot in the back of the head in a Turkish Army fashion that won't surprise any of us.

This Disgrace Against Humanity needs to be properly investigated ... and given Turkey's track record and in the knowledge that many CYs were last seen alive whilst in transit to the Turkish Death Camps, Turkey and the TA should be Presumed Guilty. The onus of proof should be on Turkey to prove its innocence ...

(Candidate country for the EU...?!!! Pollocks!!!... Turkish State and TA wouldn't qualify for the human race!!)

[Get Real!]

As for similarities; maybe the clue is in the 9mm. Looked that up (great, now Google are going to show me adverts of guns) and it was assigned to a Beretta (Turkish) pistol - which is just the sort of thing they would pull out to 'execute' somebody.

Silly girl!

Forensics cannot tell you which specific brand and model pistol fired those shots so many years ago! All they can tell you is the family of pistols used (ie: military, hunting, sports, toy junk, etc). The Italian Beretta is a huge manufacturer that makes guns for every use.

[GreekIslandGirl]

As for similarities; maybe the clue is in the 9mm. Looked that up (great, now Google are going to show me adverts of guns) and it was assigned to a Beretta (Turkish) pistol - which is just the sort of thing they would pull out to 'execute' somebody.

Silly girl!

Forensics cannot tell you which specific brand and model pistol fired those shots so many years ago! All they can tell you is the family of pistols used (ie: military, hunting, sports, toy junk, etc). The Italian Beretta is a huge manufacturer that makes guns for every use.

Precisely! Forensics is about looking for clues and similarities. So far there are enough to warrant further investigation by independent authorities in order to rule out (or not) identification to any of the missing GCs.

Turkey must be forced to comply with such a humanitarian request.